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(Humble brag of all my Rubik's cubes)

Hey all, so I'm an ex-mormon who made it through college without a sip of alcohol. I've been trying to play catch-up but my wife and I are scared of bars and all my friends recommendations have been <some_juice> with vodka.

I've been trying to learn how to drink for a couple years now. I've built up a medium collection of bottles (some of which I have no idea what to do with...). I feel like I've gone through most of the classic cocktails, but recently went back through my starting drinks because I think my pallet has opened up as I've gone along. Among the first cocktails I made myself were an old fashioned and a Manhattan and I know I didn't like either, but I'm having a Manhattan right now and really enjoying it (planning on trying an old fashioned again sometime soon).

Anyway, I've frequently wished for an expert to chat with who could give me recommendations. So drop yours below!

Some of the drinks I love:

  • Negroni - so far, if there were only one drink I could have the rest of my life, this would be it.
  • Sazerac - A close second. I think I'd love some whiskey cocktail recommendations if you have them!
  • Jungle Bird - couldn't tell you why I love it
  • French 75 - one of my favorites to show new drinkers, but a bit high-proof
  • Hot Toddy - not my go-to, but winters are cold where I live and this drink is super fun

Honorable mentions:

  • Whiskey sour - I usually make one alongside a prairie oyster, even though I hate those, so that I can use the whole egg
  • Mai Tai - a bit sweet to be on my list of favorites
  • I really like tequila but I haven't tried many cocktails with it

I think anything less sweet, maybe bitter is gonna jive really well with me


Edit:

Very excited about the recommendations! It'll take me a while, but I'll try and report back what I think as I try things!

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

One of my favorites: A jack rose.

1.5 oz applejack .75 oz lemon or lime juice (I like a 50/50 mix) .5 oz grenadine (real pomegranate syrup if you can find or make it)

Shake, double strain, serve up, garnish with lemon twist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 minutes ago

They're probably out of fashion for fancy cocktail bars but I'm fond of a Japanese slipper - equal parts Midori / Cointreau / lemon juice over ice. Sweet and sour.

Mojito is another nice lighter drink, mostly soda water, then rum, lime, sugar syrup and mint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Congrats on the journey! This is something I've been enjoying lately, but it sounds like it might be too sweet. I'm still trying to find the balance that works for me.

2 oz. Canadian Whisky 1 oz. Dry orange liqueur (I use Pierre Ferrand) 0.25 oz maraschino liqueur 1 oz. lemon juice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Try a classic gimlet and if you like elderflower, add a half oz to an oz of St. Germaine's to take it to another level.

Edit: make sure you shake with ice and pour neat! It makes a huge difference in texture.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

For something completely different. Try a Paloma. Perfect spring or summer drink. Get a good mezcal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Water on the rocks. Nothing quite as refreshing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

My standard cocktail at home is a Tommy’s Margarita, sometimes with some added mezcal. Great if you like sours, like whiskey sour.

My proportions: (1,2,4) 1.5cl agave syrup 3cl fresh lime juice 6cl tequila (I prefer tequila reposado)

Shake well with ice. Serve with or without ice.

Don’t buy shitty tequila but it doesn’t have to be fancy. Should always be 100% agave, from Mexico, and never wear a hat.

And like I said, sometimes I do half and half with tequila and mezcal, so 3cl each. Mezcal is basically tequila, but the agave has been smoked under ground, which adds some nice smoky bites.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Def on the sweet side of things, but as an ex Mormon, why not combine alcohol and coffee! Try espresso martini :). Shot (1 oz) espresso, 1.5oz vodka, 1oz Kahlua, .5oz simple syrup. Shake with ice and strain into martini glass.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Or combine coffee and whiskey with the revolver. It's less sweet and has a nice complexity

https://www.liquor.com/recipes/the-revolver/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I definitely recommend a second try at an Old Fashioned, our tastes seem to have quite a bit of overlap and it's by far the drink I make the most - just start with the the IBA recipe since most you find around the web add way too much sugar. Also, you may want to test different types of whisky, I prefer mine with Scotch instead of Bourbon, and I also suggest adding a couple drops of Orange Bitters if you have them.

Since you mentioned Sazerac I imagine you already have some Absinthe, so maybe try a Monkey Gland? It's by far my favorite Gin drink, the balance between sweet (from the Grenadine) and sour/herbal (from the Absinthe) is fantastic.

A friend of mine who is a huge fan of Negroni also loves the Teresa. It's an interesting one to taste since it feels very sweet at first due to the Cassis... but then the Campari hits and overpowers that with its sour flavor.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go with small variations on what you already like. You like negronis? Try a boulevardier (gin -> whiskey). Other swaps exist for just about every classic cocktail.

Separate recommendation is to follow the learning curve of the book "raising the bar". It's fantastic and really did a good job of teaching the fundamentals with as few bottles as possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Looks like a great book for me, just ordered a copy!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

As others have said try a Boulevardier.

You like a Manhattan so try these variations to see what directions you like.

Rob Roy uses scotch as the whisky.

Martinez the missing link between the Manhattan and Martini. Uses gin and SRV (sweet red vermouth)

Black Manhattan is my favorite replace half the SRV with Amaro. I recommend Cynar as the Amaro.

Any drink using SRV can be made black by replacing half the SRV with Amaro.

It uses Mezcal not Tequila but a Dead Lady is a great drink.

Mezcal and Cynar play very nice together. The Cynar brings out the grassy flavor in the Mezcal.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I second the boulevardier mention. The paper plane has also become a mainstay in our house.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My favourite these days is a paper plane.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seconding paper plane, but based on your list try my adjustments:

2 parts bourbon, 1 part Aperol, 1 part Amaro Nonino, 1 part lemon plus a spoonful of Campari per serving. This is how I make it and I think you would like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Going to have to try that. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Try a Twice Up if you haven't. 1 part whisky, 1 part still water, ice optional. Works great with most aged spirits IME.

I don't usually like bitter drinks, but I love Fernet and there's a ton of great stuff you can do with it. The Toronto cocktail is pretty obvious, but it also mixes great with coffee liqueur and even coffee, which has the benefit of giving you control over how sweet the drink is. It also makes an interesting variant of a Black Manhattan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Oooh, haven't heard it called the Twice Up, but here in Montana the Whiskey Ditch is popular which is just whiskey and water. In winter we use snow and I definitely like snow/cold water with mine. I guess people here used to use actual ditch water which I kind of love and will never try

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

Is snow safe to consume?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

LOL at "whiskey ditch". Using snow for cocktails sounds really cool, though!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In the Tequila corner:

Margaritas with no sweetener, just 2 parts tequila, one of lime, and one of orange liqueur, shaken.

Siesta, again with no sweetener - 2 parts tequila, 1/2 part Campari, 1/2 part lime, 1/2 part grapefruit, shaken then express a grapefruit peel over it.

Oh, also congratulations on your recovery from Mormonism and my penultimate daughter asks what is your fastest time solving the basic Rubik's Cube?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Thanks for the suggestions! Added to my to-try list. And yeah life's been great leaving that church. I'm still trying to accept that Sundays are fun now and nothing to dread on Saturday evenings 😅

And my best 3x3 solve was 18.83 seconds. But my average is closer to 24 seconds, that solve was just kinda a lucky one!