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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Sh.itjust.works Instance rules apply! If you are from other instances, please be mindful of the rules. — Basically, don't be a dick.
Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.
The comment in question:
"To everyone arriving here from /all, remember that this is a .ml community when you attempt to engage in good faith."
Edit: Sorry for the double post - I just got back after being gone all day and didn't realize someone else had made a post about my comment! There's a bit of discussion here so I was going to leave it, but if the mods would rather delete it, feel free!
Getting banned from .ml is something of a badge of honor around here. Wear it with pride.
Gotta shield themselves from transparency as much as possible!
.ml stands for Mein-fuhrer ~~Lenin~~ staLin
You posted a troll comment and it was removed for trolling. Congratulations, you created an example of mod actions on .ml that were completely justified for once.
Yeah even if what is being said is 100% factual, it is for once, a justified removal IMO.
Well you walked in their home and implied they aren't acting in good faith. And you got kicked out for it.
Best to just block .ml completely, they offer nothing of value anyways.
It doesn't seem like a good comparison here, your home is a place to feel safe, and also a place that is private. If someone forced their way into your home they would be deeply violating your safety and privacy.
A public instance like lemmy.ml is very different from that, and to compare the two is almost a bad faith comparison since you're implying that the Lemmy devs would be unsafe if someone came into Lemmy.ml uninvited or invalidated their opinions.
Lemmy.ml's mods and admins aren't endangered by opinions they dislike and people unwlling to respect them are not and will not be equivalent to someone violating the sanctity of their home.
Instances aren't precisely a house but they aren't fundamentally public spaces either.
They're privately owned and operated and while they provide public interface we're all operating in a networked system of walled gardens providing a service.
You can allege the admins and devs are being hypocrites all day with every action found in the modlog, but there is still a limit to what people will tolerate when they're providing a service.
Maybe there's some misunderstanding here. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to compare it to a house because of the exposed public nature of it, not based on public or private ownership of it. The house argument applies to a private space where one has sanctity, security, and privacy. It would be laughable to argue it for an open field even if you do own the plot.
Lemmy servers are more like those empty field plots than a house you'd expect safety and privacy from, see where I'm getting at here? If not that's okay. I'm used to not being understood by people, either unintentionally or intentionally.
I get what you mean. Although I know firsthand that in America open fields are guarded heavily, often violently. (Former government health department inspector.) Even approaching the fenceline without explicit permission is unwise for how sour a response it can create. I am beyond metaphor though with this.
here i am, just recently joining lemmy and wanting to talk about dota and the ml variant has the most people joined and still only talk to the one guy.
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