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"Fantastic Four: First Steps" director Matt Shakman says he wanted the forthcoming, standalone Marvel film to feel like it was "made in 1965."

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Worth noting:

While “Fantastic Four” is set in its own world, Shakman conceded that it will not be long before its characters are indeed seen interacting with other MCU heroes. That fact has already been confirmed by Marvel, which included Quinn, Moss-Bachrach, Kirby and Pascal in its live “Avengers: Doomsday” cast announcement.

“Eventually, this world will meet up with other worlds,” he acknowledged. “But for now, this is our own little corner.”

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Fourth time's a charm? Fifth? How many has it been now?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

This fourth film shall be fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It'll be the fourth one to be released, and fifth one to be produced, if you count the unreleased low budget 1994 Roger* Corman movie.

Tl;dr: Yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why do so many Lemmings think that there's a D in Roger?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It's one of those names with more than one spelling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Except for Roger Corman, Mr. Rogers, Roger Rabbit, or any other Roger I've seen misspelled here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Do you find it more common of a mistake than say, its vs it's?

Barely related, but earlier today I saw someone on discord thank someone else by saying Thank's

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

sad they even need to say something like this

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, until the end when some multiverse thing happens and they are brought into the current Marvel uni. lol

But I love the retrofuture look and feel to this movie. And I loved FF when I was growing up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Part of the reason the marvel movies did so well is they had common threads that tied them together.

I’m not at all excited for a microcosm of a story packed into a couple hours, that’s what tv shows are for

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'll have to disagree with you on that one. In my opinion for a first entrance in the franchise this is the right call.

There is a balance that's needed between movies within a shared universe being interconnected and having their own style and being seperat to some degree. And I think part of why the earlier MCU worked and now (at least to me) it doesn't, is partially down to them not achieving this balance.

Make the first movie of a particular part unique like e.g. with the first gotg with maybe some smaller references and gradually build up the overlaps. I think the MCU until endgame did it really well, introducing new strands one at a time and interweaving them slowly with the occasional huge mashup in the avenger movies.

But ever since then they've just kept doubling down on everything being interconnected and even expanded it to not just movies, but TV shows. This way you don't really identify to the same degree with the individual characters and it also starts to feel like more of a burden to in a way have to keep up with everything. Which eventually just gets too much and at least for me just lead to just kind of drop out of the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

That last paragraph is exactly it for me, and it’s why I don’t care at all about the MCU and the like. All the superheroes have their origin story that just leads to them joining the team of a hundred other superheroes all battling the bad thing.

No point in caring about how lazereyez or max steelfist came to be heroes, just skip to them doing their part in the team, that’s the end goal anyway. Rinse and repeat for as many characters as the audience will support.

Yeah, I get that loads of people like that shit and cool for them, I stopped caring when the characters were all over the place and I needed to buy a single pack of football cards for a special insert just to learn about some second tier character whose storyline wasn’t all that great to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn't hard to watch a movie or two to stay connected...

But now I gotta still watch

Loki, Hawk Eye, The Marvel's, and I think one other to be properly up to date. Instead of maybe 5 hours, that's like 20 hours overall, and then some of these TV things aren't as good so it becomes a slog

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

This drives me absolutely bonkers. It's one thing when several different authors think the universe is cool and want to create unique stories within it (e.g. the Star Wars EU), but it's entirely another when one approving board is seeking to maximize profits through a heavily templated story arc. It's disingenuous to storytelling and lacks more than a modicum of authenticity. It's why I struggle to watch any serial with more than three seasons. At a certain point as a viewer, you can tell when the story should naturally end and when the writers are told to drag it out.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aren't most movies a microcosm of a story packed into a couple of hours?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

That's good. FF doesn't always play well outside it's own world building

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they're planning on it possibly completely bombing, and not merging it into the main MCU?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Only if you're not paying any attention.