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Small Mobile Operating System Alternatives by Country (feddit.uk)
submitted 22 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Here are some great open-source alternatives to IOS and Android.

European:

  1. Ubuntu Touch Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
  2. Postmarket OS Europe ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ
  3. Sailfish OS Finland ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ
  4. Manjaro Arm Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
  5. /e/ OS France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

Non-european:

  1. Graphene OS Canada ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
  2. WebOS South Korea ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท

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[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry, but choosing an OS solely on the nationality of its developers is just careless and should not be encouraged. You should primarily aim for functionality, privacy and security.

The only OS on your list that meets these requirements is Graphene which remains the only true alternative for Android and IOS on mobile devices. The main drawback is that it only works on Google devices due to their superior hardware. The rest of Android Roms lack severely in terms of security features and in some cases are even worse than simple Android. /e/ OS is one of them. The unlocked bootloader and the delay in security updates substantially reduce the security of your device. Mobile based Linux OS are underdeveloped and do not have access to most apps available on the market. They can be considered an alternative only if you use your phone for its basic features and for emailing.

If you can, get a Pixel and install Graphene on it. If not, degoogle your device as best as you can, use a vpn, a password manager and a private email provider.

EDIT: Here is a useful chart comparing all the Android Roms - https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

If you really want to ditch Android, but you can't get Graphene then your second best choice would be Calyx.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

The majority of people don't need so much security, for example I don't use SELinux even on desktop.

If you can, get a Pixel and install Graphene on it. If not, degoogle your device as best as you can, use a vpn, a password manager and a private email provider.

I'm sorry but I won't give Google more money, I think they have enough billions of dollars already.

I prefer to support business projects and developers who are for open source and the independence from the Big Tech

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Buy second-hand then. You get a cheaper phone and you don't give google a single cent. Win-Win.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Why ? If I can give the same money to Murena, Iodรฉ or Fairphone ?

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

My answer was more oriented towards not giving google any money but I agree with you on supporting the "good guys" instead of just not supporting the bad guys.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

The majority of people don't need so much security, for example I don't use SELinux even on desktop.

Privacy goes hand in hand with security. If you don't have strong security then you can't say that you have privacy. Governments and hackers will exploit your oversight to breach your device, rendering your distancing from Big Tech pointless.

I'm sorry but I won't give Google more money, I think they have enough billions of dollars already.

I understand and I feel the same way. It's ironic that in order to obtain the highest level of security and privacy you have to first degoogle and then go back to Google, but life is funny that way. If you are adamant about it, then I suggest you buy a refurbished Pixel.

I prefer to support business projects and developers who are for open source and the independence from the Big Tech

And I encourage you to do so! More than 90% of my apps on my mobile devices now come from either European devs or FOSS projects. Similar situation on my laptop as well that now runs Linux instead of ChromeOS.

However, I strongly urge you not to compromise your online security and privacy. Choosing a weak Android ROM as your OS is one way you can do that and it can have more negative effects on your life than just staying with your default Android. If you really feel the need to ditch Android immediately, then go for Calyx if you can, but try to switch to Graphene when you can. I also can't immediately switch, but I will probably choose Graphene when I'll be able to.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

As someone from the U.S., I was so hesitant to switch to another OS, but damn. With everything that's going on, I kind of feel that I have to switch over to Graphene OS.

This is insane.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

That's a great idea as Graphene OS is considered to be very secure.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I want to see a european-made repairable flagship phone with pmos pre-installed with Wero wallet support.

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Check out Fairphone! Its really promising on the hardware side of things. I ordered mine with /e/os a couple days ago

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Fairphones aren't European-made. Manufactured by Arima in Suzhou, China.

EDIT: I wonder if the people downvoting my comment did so after the parent was edited to remove the statement that Fairphones are "European-made". Or if they just don't like the fact I mentioned, which can be confirmed on Fairphone's own website:

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As far as im aware (and please correct me if im wrong) that is true but the company is European based in the Netherlands, and given their dedication to paying and treating workers fairly I still think its a viable option for a non-US brand phone that is still competitive.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

The company Fairphone is indeed based in Europe. My previous comment was to correct the statement (since removed) that Fairphones are "European-made", which they are not.

But we shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good; buying a Fairphone with /e/ os is definitely a huge step in the right direction. Congratulations, and I hope it all goes well for you.

(I'd wouldn't mind getting one myself eventually, but I've read contradictory comments about reliability with the cellular bands used where I live, especially as I use an MVNO that switches between different cell service providers with varying tech.)

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

Wero is only supported in very few countries atm, which is sad cause it does have the potential