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Because now is the best time to be alive, ever. I could take you back 100, 200, 500, 1000, or 5000 years ago and things just get shittier and shittier the further back we go yet people kept having kids.
Not quite true. 20-30 years ago would be better than now. Slightly worse medical science is offset by everything else being farther up the collapse timeline.
I get our argument but I don’t think it’s accurate to overlook how terrible things have gotten in the past few decades just by taking the longview.
My support worker just got a new client and she said they bought their house for about 30k$ decades ago and are now sitting on millions.
Who the fuck can afford a house or kids or anything other than the bare minimum.
Costs keep going up, wages stay the same or often get smaller. What. The. Fuck.
I literally had to take a paycut to get hired by my former employer again.
Things are definitely not getting better than they were
They're clearly getting better for your employer
Tell that to anyone currently living with AIDS.
You're kidding yourself, things may have seemed better 20 years ago but the economy was being bolstered by sub prime mortgage nonsense, it collapsed 2 years later and we've not had good times since.
How about climate change? 20 years ago there was hope. You want to introduce a kid into a world that is ending? Tell them hey, we made this world for you. You’ll fight in the water wars of 2040?
You're saying things were better 20 years ago because there was false hope? By that logic 2020 must've been the best year ever because CO2 emissions actually dropped.
And because we were 20 years further from the collapse.
It'll collapse or it won't collapse or we'll do something different, same as we always have. Pining for a rose tinted snapshot of 20 years ago or 30 years ago won't make things better. It's the same bullshit nostalgia fetishism the far right have for the 50s or 60s or whatever. Some things are worse, a lot of things are a lot better. All we can really do is support those we can support and make things better where we can.
I'm not pining for anything, but being 20 years further from the end is objectively better. Don't lump me in with those fascist pigs, you dickbag. That's not even remotely the same thing.
It's exactly the same.
US life expectancy has also gone down during that time.
Okay?
Twenty years ago, we invaded a country to steal it's oil while dismantling the nascent EV/Solar industry to protect fossil fuels
We are here today precisely because things were worse twenty years ago
Better fighting to preserve water tomorrow than bloody your hands fighting for oil yesterday
No, it's not. It's not a constant progression.
In most countries, the best time to be alive was the 60s-90s. Since then the world has been going downhill in everything that matters. Yes, sure, tech has evolved and all. But having the wonderful opportunity to be glued to a screen for half your life doesn't make it the best time to be alive.
People dont stop having kids because they suddenly hate the concept. It's in our nature to have kids. We don't want kids anymore because society has turned so hostile that it completely overruns our instinct to have kids.
The argument could be made that kids conceived right now will be the next richest generation as we have to be rapidly approaching the breaking point with the current second gilded age
You literally have no way of knowing that though. I hope you're right, but that's just wishful thinking.
I mean choosing to believe things won't get any better is just pessimistic thinking, plus its counter-productive because if you don't believe in a better tomorrow how can you make today the first/next step towards a better tomorrow?
The best time to plan a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is now. Why not be hopeful about the future and lay the groundwork to make some small improvement to your corner of the earth?
Bro, deciding to continue living is also wishful thinking tho.
Because they had no means to have sex without kids.
Fair enough. Kids were also their retirement plan.
We've been able to pull out for a long time.
That said, what do you think is going to happen to our capacity to produce modern safe prophylactics at scale of we let guys like RFK Jr keep running things.
Technology isn't a given. It's a surplus benefit of a modern society. One that can degrade over time just as easily as it can accumulate.
I mean, my sex ex courses were mostly taught by conservatives, but we were always told the pull out method alone isn't going to get the job done. Though, I think it's supposed to be decently effective if the woman is also tracking her ovulation carefully and you abstain during ovulation.
Pretty sure the re-enslavement of women into perpetual baby makers is part of their plan.
Not just women
Are you talking about trans men? Or are you talking about other types of slavery?
It's not even the best time to be alive during my lifetime