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next time I hear "there is just too many (brown) people" i swear

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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 127 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (9 children)

Yeah, kinda like that time Brian Thompson got shot, and the next day United Healthcare ceased to exist.

Not saying that the general point of corporations doing more harm than people is wrong. Just that if you think that the corporation is just one person, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[–] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 46 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

United Healthcare's stock is down 60% since the incident. United Healthcares board and new CEOs lowered the rejection rate of patients out of fear as well. Say what you want about the morality of what was done. The efficacy speaks for itself

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

The stock drop would be expected, but is there any credible source that denial rate dropped?

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 7 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The efficacy lasted for all of a month before returning to where it had been before.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 24 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

So, UHC stock was up around 600, dropped to a bit over 200, and is lately around 300. So like ¾ of the drop is still there in linear terms, or something like ⅔ in logarithmic terms.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

That's true, and my bad for implying otherwise.

But I also think much more critically, they're back to denying coverage exactly the way they were before Thompson died.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Well then we just need to stagger the killings in intervals to keep them in check. Simple solution.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They seemed pretty mortal to me yeah, idk why anyone would say otherwise

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 minutes ago

Then maybe the treatment needs more than a single dose.

[–] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, kinda like that time Brian Thompson got shot, and the next day United Healthcare ceased to exist.

Their HP definitely went down. And, anecdotally, I heard from a pharmacist friend that they were approving claims like nobody's business for the next day or so

[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 64 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

if that continues to happen, trust me, eventually none of these fuckers will be left in line.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yup. After 9/11 for a while it seemed every week or two the news would report that "The leader of Al Qaeda" had just been killed or captured. Not a false statement, yet it happened again the next week.

[–] meejle@piefed.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we should assign these fuckers playing cards like Bush did 👀

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 8 points 12 hours ago

I just want to say that the idea that we could develop a crowdsourced bounty system on the dark web using cryptocurrency would be illegal and I would never publicly support it.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Kemp is alive and governing Georgia as far as I know but I'm happy to be corrected if that's wrong. You may be thinking of Brian Thompson who involuntarily resigned his position as the CEO of UnitedHealthcare on a NYC sidewalk.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Ah damn, you right. Should have Googled it. Too many Brian's in the news, lol. Got the wires crossed.

Editing to fix.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

You did have my hopes up for a moment.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

... So kill the entire board.

That'd probably make a more uh, substantial material impact on their bottom line.

Oh, they keep doing evil shit with a new board?

... repeat.

Or, I guess you can just either ... well, either try to run away and hide, pray to the normalcy bias gods that one of these days the legal systems they own will do something against them, or just resign yourself to a kind of smug, self defeating moral solace in being doomed, but being right while being doomed.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Which one of those things are you doing?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

At the moment, a bit of the first, and a bit of the third.

Its hard to be an agent of one's own will to power when one is seriously crippled.

So mostly what I am doing is physical therapy so that I can get back to being a more effective agent of my own will.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I prefer Schopenhauer's Will to Life which Nietzsche plagiarized during his psychotic ramblings.

If Nietzsche was right about the Will to Power being the essence of life, then fascism would be justified. What is fascism besides an exercise in Will to Power devoid of empathy? Hitler loved Nietzsche. He corrupted a lot of the things Nietzsche said. Nietzsche wasn't inherently fascist, and actually abhorred authority. But his Will to Power rhetoric did lend itself to the development of fascist ideology.

Life isn't merely some competition between rivaling species of plants that will overwhelm the other if the other doesn't overwhelm them first. That's what happens when there's an imbalance in an ecosystem, such as with the introduction of non-native plants. If that were perfectly fine as an analogy for human society and behavior, then what argument could be made against colonization and ethnic cleansing? The same argument would justify capitalistic exploitation, extractive industry, "infinite growth," and zero-sum economic systems.

To be clear, those things are evil, but that's why I don't believe in the Will to Power. (True that Nietzsche didn't mean it that way, because he personally was anti-authority, but he failed to consider what it would mean for an authoritarian figure with the intention and capability to enforce an evil Will to Power).

But in a balanced ecosystem, life isn't a zero-sum game. Lots of species symbiotically work together to maintain the balance, a sort of ecological homeostasis. On the species level, even predator-prey relations are symbiotic (without wolves, deer overpopulate and overconsume, then they starve and experience population collapse).

So that's why I favor Will-to-Life over Will-to-Power.

There's also Will-to-Good, which sounds great on the surface, but "Good" is hard to define, so it's mostly useless and can lend itself to corruption and perversity just as easily.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

... Ok.

I didn't mean to get into a philosophy argument, I meant to indicate my capacity to act in the world.

Bring crippled significantly hampers that, when it comes to most kinds of physical actions.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 29 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Okay, you can't just mention a desire to be an agent of your own will to power and expect me not to discuss the differences between Nietzsche and Schopenhauer...

The phrase "will to power" has an origin, and it was coined by Nietzsche as an adaptation of Schopenhauer's "will to life."

In my view, power is a means to an end and not an inherent good worth pursuing for its own sake. Life, on the other hand, is an end in itself and is an inherent good worth pursuing for its own sake.

It makes sense to ask "Why do you want power?" But if you ask "Why do you want to live," it seems kinda pointless like asking the wrong question.

This is because living is the reason for everything else that we do: work, get paid, buy food, eat. We fight for better systems because they're more conducive to life. We might sacrifice our own lives for an ideal that makes life possible or better for others, presumably people we care about, and even then, life is the goal, just not for ourselves.

A will to power requires further justification. A will to life does not.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

It would be if the answer weren't so obvious

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You act like they're doing any of it besides the smug moral solace

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No I don't.

I'm capable of being honest, and judging myself by thr same standards I judge others.

You just assumed that I'm not.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't "assume" that, it was indicated by the smugness of your keyboard warrior "just do such-and-such, or succumb to doomerism" argument.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

No, you're not getting it:

Yep, I am smug, hence the smug description of being smug.

Meta-smugness.

You're assuming that I do not count myself amongst being smug.

I do.

Its also not the only of those 3 things I do, see my other comment where you decided to give a pretty good, though mostly off topic explanation of Nietzche vs Schopenhauer, totally missing the part wherr I established being smug is not the only thing that I do.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The way in which Luigi was arrested is part of their safety checks. A way to motivate working class to turn people in, without paying them. I generally thought reward money worked.

I learned it did not work from a podcast that no longer exists. Michael Bazzel’s OSINT podcast talked about it within the context of people who used OSINT to find people on wanted lists and how reward money collection actually works. (Podcast doesn’t exist any more, the copies of the casts went away with the podcast.). Sadly, there’s no replacement for this type of news and info condensed down into one place. It’s also a niche area of information, not followed by many.

Those McDonald's workers were not paid for turning Luigi in. But they thought they would be.

Even so, look at the bigger picture. How many Luigi’s have there been since 1981?

Most people avoid confrontation, spending most of their days sitting in a chair or lying down, and thinking/hoping/wishing a white knight is going to rescue them from their situation. It’s one reason why so many people exist in bad relationships (1 or a chain of them). Because they think that other person is going to rescue them from their sad days of avoiding confrontation while sitting in a chair or lying down, most of the day for most of their days. Hoping. But never doing. Thinking about doing. Maybe spouting off on the internet about doing. But never doing.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

find people on wanted lists and how reward money collection actually works

How does it actually work?

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 4 hours ago

A lot if time, as one example, it’s conditional on conviction. So not only do they have to cat h the guy they have to win in court. That’s not money in exchange for the tip itself.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Generally? It doesn't.

See making the call to tip off the cops makes you eligible for the reward. If you called the correct tip/reward phone number. So that's the first road block.

Even then, you aren't automatically getting the reward. No. There are still hoops to jump through.

As a note these additional hoops also apply when there isn't a specific phone number.

According to the FBI's website, I'd link but I'm on my phone, someone (an agent, a prosecutor, etc) has to put your name forward in a nomination package.

This is then reviewed by the FBI and other agencies, it's kind of vague.

Anyway these agencies decide if you get a reward and what percentage.

And none of this can start until after a conviction is secured.

[–] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, holup

Didnt bazzel stop doing podcasts way before luigi happened? Or are you talking about an old episode

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 4 hours ago

He did his Irish Goodbye before Luigi. I’m saying, the high potential for not getting reward money was known prior.

Looks like it was back in March 2022 so still a little while before Thompson's final claim denial. Show notes are available but it's not saying much more than what you get from the title of the episode:

EPISODE 254-OSINT+Fugitives=Rewards

This week I release the previously-canceled show about finding fugitives with OSINT and collecting large rewards.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

There is also a societal dependance on some of the status quo. The bigger issue is how hard they actively resist the change. A lot of places still rely on trucking at a minimum to fill the groccery store with food wrapped in plastic, most of which is powered or made by fossil fuels. We need to electrify and diversifying but they cling to oil and have way too much power in governmental decisions to prevent or reverse any reduction in dependance for their products.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago

the post is about who is doing it, who is responsible,

it's supposed to make the problem less abstract