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[โ€“] schoegge@feddit.org 111 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please avoid Nutella, Kinder and Ferrero products in general. They are known to source their cacao and nuts from child labour.

Also Nutella is like 2/3 palm oil, which destroys rainforests.

[โ€“] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Also, Nutella adapts its recipe for different EU countries. The poorer countries get more sugar %. This was warned about in EU Parliament some time ago but I don't know if it's actually been put under control.

[โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is that why the nutella i buy in statesia tastes like shit? should i ask someone to import some from belgium for me?

[โ€“] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quite possibly yes, and absolutely no, they don't deserve the money.

[โ€“] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i mean it tastes like shit so, y'know, i eat other stuff. they don't deserve the money on multiple levels i'm with you. i've spent many years trying to figure this out. it's so... mealy here.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Isn't palm oil also cheap and tasteless in comparison to cocoa butter? So not only is it bad for the environment but it also just kinda sucks

[โ€“] Drusas@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, which is part of why it's in so many things.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But it also means its a food quality type of thing to avoid, which realistically is probably a better way to get to most people than the environment that they don't seem to care about if it saves them even a single penny. Tell them it tastes worse.

[โ€“] LwL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Funnily enough palm oil is, in isolation, one of the more environmentally friendly oils (based on land and water use). This is probably in direct relation with it being cheap. Switching to other oils is still better because the deforestation of rain forest being so much worse overall, but the real solution as is so often the case has to be lower plant oil use in general.

[โ€“] Prime@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I want to offer counter points.

If you want an oil that does not impact the taste, and that has specific melting properties at certain temperatures, then palm oil can be the correct choice. This is a quality of palm oil that few other oils have. It is neither inherently good nor bad, it is just a property you can select. If you actually want a certain taste by the oil itself, then don't select palm oil.

Secondly, being cheap is nothing bad. It is, by itself, unrelated to quality. In fact, all else being equal, cheap ingredients should be preferred. We need to get away from the opinion that only expensive food is good. Price and quality are somewhat correlated, but this is not an absolute, and it most certainly is not a requirement.

[โ€“] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

I suppose it depends on the product, but if you are buying chocolate you want it to taste of chocolate, not nothing.