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[–] djdarren@piefed.social 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (10 children)

I would say that the US is a very weird place, but then I remembered that this

is the flagship of the ~~British Navy~~ First British Sea Lord. She hasn't floated for literally 100 years.

So mostly I guess it's just that militaries are weird.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 minutes ago

Every state is based on total bullshit. That's part of why the state is garbage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's weird. You gotta keep your wooden boats in the water like we do. Our navy owns a forest for repairing our stupid wooden ship

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she'd hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.

Now there's a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she's better supported now than when she was afloat.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

but what about ceremonial anime swords in the US military?

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

The state is an evil, goofy religion.

More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.

The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).

Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's also a statue of George Washington in England. Except the US shipped a bunch of dirt all the way across the Atlantic from Virginia so he would technically not be standing on British soil.

Humans do weird shit just to make a statement.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 minutes ago

The state is entirely based on lies and delusions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dracula did the same when he moved to England

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But is Dracula twelve stories high and made of radiation?

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I heard... that... motherfucker had, like... thirty goddamn dicks.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (2 children)
[–] klugerama@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I heard that motherfucker had, like, 30 goddamn dicks

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

He was a gundam.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago

"What do we do with all this rubble and old dirt?"

"Ship it to the UK and call it patriotism"

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots.

Keeping history around isn't weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813.

Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 12 hours ago

Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations.

The USS Theseus?

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You're telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 minutes ago

They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Ah, I'm mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that's displayed in a building next to her.

[–] HearTwoTalk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine.

Fires full broadside.

Refuses to elaborate.

Leaves.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Militaries see a lot of value in convincing their members that they'll be remembered after dying.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

Do I wish this wasn't necessary? Fucking of course.

But history doesn't repeat itself so much as humans just don't change.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

I'll assume that you're talking about Luigi Mangione (allegedly) and move on.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

We're talking about the US here. It's mostly about the greed, slavery, oil or invading farmers.

Small correction: The HMS Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord. The current Royal Navy Fleet Flagship is the aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is she not beautiful? Do her curves offend your insecure masculine sensibilities?

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

She's too beautiful. So beautiful in fact, that I am now banned from Portsmouth Historic Dockyard.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 20 hours ago

For shame, for she has many suitors but not nearly enough who will polish her portholes

[–] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I somehow never considered that there were literal flagships.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The USS Enterprise (pretty much any of them, including nonfiction) have been flagships.