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Not voting (in your election)
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No, no, they're not gonna fly in and save anything. They've basically dropped even implying they're going to do that. Now the party line is "vote for us! We'll do nothing for 4 years! That's better than actively doing bad things. Remember to vote for us again in 4 years. Or bad things!"
And the most fucked up part is that nothing for 4 years is better than active bad things. We need actual 3rd party candidates and socialists doing some real fucking organizing at the local and state levels and building a coalition. We're never going to get a viable candidate from a viable party that isn't complete dogshit in a national election if there isn't a huge movement behind them, and we're not going to get that if we don't stop pretending like it can start at the presidential level.
That said, in a solid red or blue state, get the greens or whoever over the threshold so they get federal funding. But swing state voters have a much harder choice before them.
Whole system is fucked.
Made myself sad.
Going to bed now.
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"Guys! I keep voting for the lesser of two evils, but my country just continues to become more and more cartoonishly evil? What should i do?"
Voting takes less than one day. It doesn't meaningfully reduce your ability to do activism, while wasting breath on how voting doesn't matter plays into the narrative that centrists are taught to follow so they don't take you seriously, which does meaningfully reduce the effectiveness of your activism.
Every leftist who doesn't vote should be held accountable for making the country they live in so much worse than it would have been if they did vote. Not voting for Harris in a swing state is about as bad as beating up a homeless person, in terms of how much harm it has caused to homeless people.
Spend 1460 days building the new world in the shell of the old, and 1 day voting so that when they try to stop you they do so with cops rather than with the army.
Who said voting doesn't matter? I didn't see BakerBagel say that at all.
And voting for Harris, is a vote for genocide. Which lesser evil are you going to choose now?