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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 70 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Internet was a mistake. It gave all the anti science people and crackpots a platform for their ideas.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Making it easy was the mistake, the internet was great when knowing what tcp/ip actually is was a barrier to entry.

Gatekeeping isn't a dirty word.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 56 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This also exposed just how many stupid people are out there. We all assumed that making infinite knowledge available would be the rising tide which lifts all boats; instead, the rising tide is a tsunami of idiocy and willful ignorance.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

I know that I was completely wrong in this regard. You know, like how Mark Twain said something like travel was anathema to bigotry.

So, I thought that the reason bigotry existed was that people are afraid of the unknown, so if you forced people together, they'd have to realize that we're all the same.

But now I realize that the main reason bigotry exists is that people are staying in contact with other bigots. The part about meeting diverse people is important, but far less important than pulling people out of their comfort zone to combat bigotry. So, the internet amplifies bigotry, because they'll never be out-of-contact with their local bigots, even if they travel away from them.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Can we please just make network that has a higher barrier to entry than spending 1000 dollars on an iPhone but through a 4 year loans?

And before some c suite fuck head reads this, I don't mean cost more money. I mean cost just a tiny bit more intellectually.

[–] bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are we not already on such a network? There are some here that moan about the Fediverse being too hard of a concept for the laymen to wrap their heads around. I do not disagree with them, but I like to see it as a moron filter that doesn't seem to exist on most other places on the internet.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

I mean, I just went to a site and made an account.

Facebook has the same barriers in place, and ironically enough, I can view our content without an account and not theirs.

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

I mean, a lotta fucking Nazis knew what TCP/IP was back in the 80s, too.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this would would only help our sanity, the stupid people would still be stupid, just not as loudly

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Them being stupid, loudly, together, is making all of them stupider as individuals, too.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The ad populum fallacy on full display.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I don't know, man. I saw a Facebook poll saying ad populum isn't a thing.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

In this regard, I absolutely have come to agree.

I always say: "The Internet should be for anyone! But it shouldn't have been for everyone ."

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, the same was said about the printing press back then

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only a rich crackpot could distribute pamphlets claiming colloidal silver cures cancer, and then they'd still only reach people in walking distance.

Now, any moron can reach literally the entire world at no cost or effort.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Also, literacy itself was gatekept back then. The stupid people we're referring to wouldn't even have been able to read it.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Carving symbols on stone tablets was a mistake

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Our species developing speech was a mistake

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Relevant username

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Climbing down from the trees was the begining of the end.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Its not anti science to not blindly trust science. Its actual science to try and verify observations. Sure, most people dont have those skills to properly know what they are observing, but I think its good if people try to learn.

I learned tons of stuff about the common pitfalls about measuring the curvature of the earth by looking at flat earth arguments and seeing what science says about them.

Today you can throw those arguments into chat gpt and get a decent summary of how anything actual works.

Using lasers to track earth curvature across a big lake for example, absolutely fascinating to see why it doesnt work as you may expect.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Using lasers to track earth curvature across a big lake for example, absolutely fascinating to see why it doesnt work as you may expect.

Why would it not work as I expect? I'm expecting some beam decoherence, and possible deflecting due to temperature differences over a cold lake.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah those things.

[–] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My brother is a crank because ChatGPT enables him.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago

Some people get shot because guns were invented.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m still convinced flat earthers are an internet hoax/troll.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I've seen a super genius flying with a bubble level.