Canada

Because the only people who support it are students and academics and think tanks.

I own my own home, I support my wife with my single income, and we have enough savings that recently being unemployed for several months did not cause any financial hardships.

I support UBI even though I personally would not benefit from it, and I should be taxed more in order to help people who are struggling.

Not everyone operates under "fuck you I got mine".

And since WHEN in the history of mankind, if a gov has saved some money in other areas, have they LOWERED taxes due to the savings? Never.

Governments lower taxes all of the freaking time. This last federal election it was one of the largest points that all three major parties were proposing.

Because the only people who support it are students and academics and think tanks. The rest of us live in reality and are sick of our very high tax burden in Canada. So enough with the studies, kill this idea once and for all.

False, I live here and work here and support exploring the idea to see what and how it would work. You can't know how expensive it is based solely on theories, so we NEED to run these studies to show it either is or isn't more expensive. Especially given our single-payer healthcare, reductions in healthcare spending due to better life circumstances/proper nutrition can very quickly and easily make up significant costs spent elsewhere.

Canada's tax burden is not actually that high. Curious what you're comparing to. Taking Canada's average income of $55,000, they pay effective rates of 13-20%, based on your province.

Taking a few US cities as comparison,, Georgia is at ~20%, while Michigan sits at 19% because they have a city income tax rate. California falls around the 19% mark as well. BUT many of those places have cities which also have rates ranging from 0.5 to 2.5%.

The two arguments against the reasoning that tax burdens are too high are simple questions - who is paying the majority of these taxes, and how efficient are the taxes being used. Once you realize the answers to those questions, saying anything beneficial to the public is too expensive becomes moot. Now if your argument as written means that taxes are unfairly distributed and used for the wrong things and there isn't anything anyone can do to change that, you already understand my first point and are just resigned to remain oppressed and used.

I push UBI and I completely want to pay for it with everyones taxes including mine same as universal healthcare. I mean im in the US. It also should replace all cash assistance. Unemployment, disability, social security, etc ; and it should provide enough to get by on. Modest rent, utilities, food. Most of the bureaucracy could be removed since there is no means test. It would basically be social security for all but for the us you would need universal healthcare as many retired folks would be getting less. Most folks should break even tax wise unless not making enough to get by or doing pretty well. I usually get the response at this point about whats the point for the regular person if they pay as much as they get. The point is if you lose your job you retain and income stream till you get a new one without having to fill out paperwork and wait and maybe get denied, same with disability, and same when you retired. The moment your working again your paying into the system. In many cases throughout ones life one will pay more in than they get out but almost everyone does that with insurance and the reason you do it is because its there when you need it (although this one a bit more so as you don't have to file a claim as you did that when you turned 18). For young folks it helps you with college, for career times it acts like unemployment that takes no effort so you can get those resumes out asap, for retirement it acts like retirement.