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[–] MoreFPSmorebetter@lemmy.zip 64 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I still remember when bumble had to change their entire premise and business model because as it turns out women are worse at starting conversations than men lmao.

I wholeheartedly believe that the Internet and smart phones have been the biggest double edge swords in human history. We have the entire globes collected knowledge at our fingertips with the ability to connect with any other person on the planet instantly and it has caused the largest shift in loneliness and depression ever.

Humans simply are not wired for social media and the Internet. Seeing every single person you know posting themselves beautiful and dressed up doing the coolest things 24/7 will make anyone feel ugly and like they aren't doing anything with their lives. It takes real focused effort to remember that people (generally) only post when they are doing something special and what you don't see are the days or weeks between posts that show they live the same boring life you live.

I'm ranting for no reason. I think when we lost in person social gatherings as the primary method of meeting new people is when society kicked that concrete block off the cliff. Right now we are just waiting for the rope to snap taught and drag us all into the abyss.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Every starting conversation on Bumble was like:

"Hey"

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

A couple times I asked people directly if that opener worked for them.

One of them said, "I used to write more thoughtful first messages, but I didn't get good results so I don't bother anymore." I told her that writing a bad opener is likely turning away whole classes of people, likely the more thoughtful and interesting ones, but she didn't care. I said we weren't a good match and moved on.

Another one said, "But you responded so it worked!". Her profile was also largely blank. I said yeah, but it didn't make me want to date you. It was a bad first impression that made me think you're a half-asser. Rude, I know. The conversation ended shortly after.

I think communication is a skill that requires practice and feedback. Writing messages on dating apps is a more specialized form of that skill. I have years of practice now (sad, but here we are). A 30 year old woman downloading bumble for the first time, asked to write first messages? That's kind of like putting someone on the baseball field who's never played before. They probably know most of the rules intellectually, and in other parts of life they've done all the little pieces like throwing, running, and catching, but doing it all together at the right time? Not likely to go well at first.

[–] polle@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If that happend, it triggered me so hard. Its like the insanest thing ever. Why are you even on bumble then.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why are you expecting conversations to be otherworldly?

How many conversations in real life with people you like start with something akin to "hey"? I'm gunna bet most but I suppose I could be wrong.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a whole universe of possibilities between "hey" and a conversation so good it is otherworldly.

Most of these apps, the user has a profile. If they're not fucking it up, the profile has topics to talk about.

"Hey! Your profile says you love the mets. Do you go to a lot of games? I used to go with my pop, but he just watches the game on TV now" isn't stellar but it's significantly better.

If the other person responds with "Nah [end of communication]" then they're doing a bad job. I'd see that all the time and it drove me crazy.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You both seem to ignore the fact that conversation is two way and that conversations from nothing ie. Small talk is extremely off-putting.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago

How am I ignoring that conversation is two way? I specifically mentioned it's a bad job when one person engages and the other half-asses it with one word responses.

I don't see what small talk being off-putting has to do with anything. I don't know if I even consider talking about your interests small talk, but okay. How else do you expect it to work?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

From what I saw, it wasn't just "hey". Hey was the yellow flag.

It was all the one word responses. To everything. It was the job of the guy to be entertaining on the app to barely any response.

That takes its toll on men, especially when there were women who used it as a source of free entertainment.

[–] polle@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

I would expect something else then one word if you select the Dating platform where the big difference is that you have to write first as a women. It seems odd to me.

But probably tinder or the other dating platforms are just (as) shitty and it didn't have any deeper thought about joining bumble.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

In my experience the bot and scam scripts have become refined enough to seem exactly like a pretty disengaged or disenchanted user, or someone not confident in what they're doing. It's led to some awkward moments when I suddenly send "BOT CHECK"

[–] Chewmungus@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

This was eloquently written and I enjoyed reading your insights. I found your closing metaphor particularly apt!