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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 251 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"The president gets expanded powers during an emergency"

"The president gets to declare what is an emergency"

Thanks Supreme Court and Congress. Who could have ever guessed that this system would be abused by an authoritarian. 🤷‍♂️

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

... This is unironically what all the rightwing conspiricists have been afraid of for two+ decades now.

This is what they thought Clinton, or Obama or somehow the UN or 'ZOG' would be able to use as the mechanism to instate tyranny.

... And now they are doing it themselves, so utterly deluded that they would short cicruit if you tried to explain this to them.

I grew up in a right wing nutjob household. This is what I was told my whole life, growing up. I was indoctrinated into it, and had to deconvert myself out of it similar how I had to deconvert out of christian extremism.

These people are perfect hypocrites.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember Jade Helm? They thought Obama was going to use military exercises to take control of Texas back in 2015 or so. Gov. Shitstain even made some comment lending credence to the theories. Now there’s a president using the military to control parts of Texas and they’re cool with it.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yep.

Thats another prime example of them literally doing essentially exactly their paranoid fears.

Oh howabout FEMA death/concentration camps?

... Well, FEMA is probably fucking over, but the plan for migrants, suspected migrants, and the homeless.... literally is send them all to prison camps, and if we don't have enough capacity, build more pop up semi permanent structure camps on the outskirts of major cities.

They became lost, staring into the void, and now are the monsters they dreamed of.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

The only thing they were afraid of is that someone who wasn’t on “their side” would beat them to it.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They were worried about those things because they knew what they would do if they had the power.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Selfish, emotionally immature, fearful idiots believe that everyone else is like them, and is just lying about not being so.

Therefore, all those 'other people' are devious liars who are more crafty then 'us', so 'we' must outscheme 'them!'

... all of this shit is literally scientifically verified.

The more conservative you are, the more likely your brain make up is to respond out of fear of potential loss, to shut out disconfirming informstion... as opposed to the potential gain of trying or exploring something new, that causes you to confront whether or not you may be wrong.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Yup, and you can make people more conservative by blasting them with propaganda about how scary "the other" is.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

MAGA follows only a handful of rules, one most prominent is "it's only bad if you do it. If I do it then it's Morally Correct™©®."

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago

My recently diagnosed PTSD, following finally being able to escape from and ghost my family of abusive nutters by moving many states away ... says yes, you are correct!

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

this is a rule that the left needs to adopt as well. there is no right or wrong in war, only winners and losers.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Every accusation is a confession for them. They've been telling on themselves for decades.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My aunt is a conspiracy nut and she was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt Obama would declare martial law to stay in power longer. But now she would probably deny saying it. I wish she would at least be consistent in her lunacy but she takes no responsibility for anything she says

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Years ago, I had a friend who was warning me that the National Guard was going to move to put everyone into FEMA camps at 10pm next Tuesday. I called her up, explained how it was a QAnon conspiracy theory that wasn't going to happen, talked her down, yet she was still like "well, it can't hurt to be careful next week".

I brought it up to her a few weeks later, in an attempt to get her away from her crazy QAnon-addicted Facebook friends, and she barely even remembered it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Conspiracy theories are like movie trailers. They're designed to build your anticipation and get you buying in on opening night. Doesn't matter if the movie is a flop, so long as they got your money off the first weekend of hype.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Congress needs to pass a law requiring that any national emergency needs to be confirmed by a super majority of both the house and Senate within 15 calendar days of declaration. Or from 15 days of the passage of this law, whichever is later. An ongoing national emergency must be renewed by Congress before the sixth month of its declaration, but no earlier than it's fifth month. Then on a yearly basis starting from the anniversary of its declaration.

Failing that, all emergency powers the president wields are revoked.

In a true emergency, the assemblage of Congress is not an onerous task. Nor is the vote.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didnt the house declare the remainder of their year 1 really long day so they couldnt be forced to vote on the tariffs as there already is a mechanism after 15 days for congress to say "yea thats not really an emergency"

Yep here is the Link

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

This would then default to not an emergency so avoiding a vote wouldn't do shit to help them.

The existing mechanism is that Congress can vote to say it's not an emergency. I'm saying they need to do the opposite. Say it actually is an emergency and by a supermajority so one party having control doesnt give them complete control.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmao. There was a similar law requiring Congress to review the tariffs. You know what those spineless Republican asslickers in Congress did? They literally passed a law saying that, regarding tariffs, the entire rest of this year's legislative session is just one day long.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

This is the opposite. The existing law has them vote to overturn it. As it stands, it remains an emergency until Congress says otherwise.

This law would automatically end it unless a supermajority says otherwise. Supermajority would hopefully prevent a single party from having enough control to do otherwise.

It says calendar days, so even if Congress considered all this a single day and refuse to vote, the emergency would expire anyway.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, this one is on congress. They had it up for a vote, and it went 49-49. That was about tarrifs, but it was the same idea as limiting the "emergency"

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I would even go so far as require that vote/confirmation within 24hrs, especially if it's a real(tm) emergency.

It's 2025, we can reach anyone in an instant. And if circumstances require it, (I don't know, say everything west of the Mississippi goes missing), then make a list of who can check in(similar to the rules of succession for president) when the call goes out, and if they are able to respond.