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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 29 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Wouldn't a mutation in the deer sight to see orange be vastly evolutionary beneficial?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only in areas with tigers, and then it would only express itself enough if there were enough evolutionary pressure exclusively on that survival tactic.

As long as other causes of death happen to deer in tiger territories and as long as speed remains a good survival strategy, minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios like a tiger stalking them wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

There's also a whole host of additional brain power that needs to be dedicated to more complex colour blending and processing, and that may add enough delay to offset any potential gain in recognizing a threat.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios … wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

Most north europeans can digest lactose.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Black death IIRC. Milk was one of few easily availabke foods when farmers died off. So, extremely specific scenario.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

North Europe is a frozen wasteland where nothing grows for like a third of the year, being able to digest lactose in those months is hugely advantageous. I don't think "winter" counts as an "extreme specific scenario"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Hey northern europe is not all Iceland.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago

Presumably yes, but its still down to a roll of the dice whether a mutation like that happens in the first place, and whether the individuals who have that mutation live long enough to breed, and whether that mutation actually gets passed down, etc

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It's been far more important, evolution wise, to be agile and quick enough to avoid predators. Like a security camera can only tell you how someone was murdered.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And then soon we'd have green tigers.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There are no green mammals because of some biology reason I can't remember.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah I think it was a balance patch, because mammals that could photosynthesize were too OP.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Basically all mammalian pigmentation is just melanin, so mammal colorings are mostly just different amounts of brown combined with different amounts of red, and some animals don't even have the red.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Some birds and insects are green.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

True, but they aren’t mammals.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, why is it so hard for mammals to make green? Even green eyes are just a reflection/interferrence trick.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's hard to do with fur, I believe. Birds and bugs also don't have green pigment, I believe. But they also don't have fur.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Right, i just remembered that green and blue in feathers is also just a interferrence trick. Same in bug shell.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Also, the vast majority of mammals don't see green either.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Competitive advantage over their deer peers.