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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wouldn't a mutation in the deer sight to see orange be vastly evolutionary beneficial?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only in areas with tigers, and then it would only express itself enough if there were enough evolutionary pressure exclusively on that survival tactic.

As long as other causes of death happen to deer in tiger territories and as long as speed remains a good survival strategy, minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios like a tiger stalking them wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

There's also a whole host of additional brain power that needs to be dedicated to more complex colour blending and processing, and that may add enough delay to offset any potential gain in recognizing a threat.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios … wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

Most north europeans can digest lactose.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Black death IIRC. Milk was one of few easily availabke foods when farmers died off. So, extremely specific scenario.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

North Europe is a frozen wasteland where nothing grows for like a third of the year, being able to digest lactose in those months is hugely advantageous. I don't think "winter" counts as an "extreme specific scenario"

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Hey northern europe is not all Iceland.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Presumably yes, but its still down to a roll of the dice whether a mutation like that happens in the first place, and whether the individuals who have that mutation live long enough to breed, and whether that mutation actually gets passed down, etc

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's been far more important, evolution wise, to be agile and quick enough to avoid predators. Like a security camera can only tell you how someone was murdered.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then soon we'd have green tigers.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are no green mammals because of some biology reason I can't remember.

[–] hexabs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I think it was a balance patch, because mammals that could photosynthesize were too OP.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Basically all mammalian pigmentation is just melanin, so mammal colorings are mostly just different amounts of brown combined with different amounts of red, and some animals don't even have the red.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some birds and insects are green.

[–] colourlessidea@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but they aren’t mammals.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, why is it so hard for mammals to make green? Even green eyes are just a reflection/interferrence trick.

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's hard to do with fur, I believe. Birds and bugs also don't have green pigment, I believe. But they also don't have fur.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, i just remembered that green and blue in feathers is also just a interferrence trick. Same in bug shell.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Also, the vast majority of mammals don't see green either.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Competitive advantage over their deer peers.