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The manosphere is the symptom.
This. I would argue housing affordability is one of the main root causes.
All of vulture capitalism is the cause.
Capitalism in general, from observing for 40 years.
And liberals won't take action to slow immigration which is only a layer of the problem, but it cost them votes for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QNjwM2a87g
I'll give it a watch, thank you! I'm not saying it's not problematic and doesn't amplify the crazy, btw. It most certainly does. The sickness is not creating a society that has time, money, and skill set necessary to well... properly socialize our population, as well as innoculate them against this mess. But in a sane world, most manosphere garbage would be banned as hate speech, probably.
100%, this video mostly goes into how fascism requires violent men to sustain it, and so violent men it will create through isolation and harmful propaganda. it's basically positive feedback loop where as fascism gains more ground, it isolates us more, making it easier to make men feel lonely and like they're failures, and that the system doesn't work, but instead of trying to make the system work by embracing a new view, they instead move from violence to hyperviolence.
the video basically both agrees with you, and at the same time makes a compelling argument that all the people killing us right now are sad pathetic losers whose daddies never loved them, and they see no avenue to a better tomorrow so they do… this
That's basically why I've moved from a "f them , they get what they deserve" to trying to establish dialogue that offers a path to redemption/atonement. If the person demonstrates no good faith and continues to attack, boundaries must be set and enforced. When good faith is demonstrated, we try again. If they revert to abhorrent behavior, we set former and more extensive boundaries. If they are straight up belligerent/dangerous, we segregate and rehabilitate/re-educate humanely, and attempt reintegration. Capitalism is not the system for that. It's time to try socialism.
I haven’t seen that one, but I love FD.
Check out Sixteenth Minute of Fame, too. Jamie Loftus did a multi-part series on the Manosphere, and it’s excellent.
It’s serious but still funny, rich in historical detail but still personal, and she portrays it as patriarchy vs everyone (not men vs women) without turning that into a free pass for men.
You can tell she put a ton of extra care into these ones.