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Wow, I think this is a bad take. Capitalism has a lot of shitty things going on, but it was one of the ones that saved the LGBTQ+ communities because they realized they could make money off them. Pick your power poison, religion or capitalism.
This is such an incredibly awful take that completely disregards the very obvious problem that's currently happening; what happens when it isn't economical for those companies to support us?
Everything the LGBTQ+ community has gained in the past decades was from our own activism, don't pretend the capitalists were doing us a fucking favor.
Activism, and as always, the ever-present threat of retaliatory violence that is all the state seems to respect!
We need to get back to our roots.
Your own activism and allies. I don't see many LGBTQ+ in other extremely religious countries. I was thinking of Europe mostly and the bad times that are currently happening in the US are in sharp contrast to other countries where it's still accepted. Countries like Russia and China are notoriously shitty towards LGBTQ+ people. So are extremely religious countries.
ok... but they are capitalist countries using queer people as a scape goat just as the post says??
sure this isnt inherent to capitalism, it is inherent to power structures as a whole
What I'm saying is, without capitalism to prop up the democracy, you wouldn't have anywhere to be an activist in. My immigrant boss used to have a plaque on his door that talked about the US being a horrible government, but still one of the best out there. He was from Russia and survived the wall coming down. I no longer think that's true at the current time, but we're in the top 30 or so. We've also had some really good moments that lasted a year or two.
There are no permanent solutions, only snapshots in time on an up and down graph. It's a gray area.
Where is this non-capitalist utopia you think we should emulate. It can be from anytime in history, when and where is it?
If that's a real question and not a gotcha, I strongly recommend the book The Dawn of Everything. The world is and can be more complicated than the choice between various flavors of authoritarianism.
Personally, I don't believe in utopia, but I do believe we all deserve an opportunity to exist free of the coercive power of others. The fact that any real community striving for this will be in some way imperfect does not diminish the worthiness of efforts toward that end. We don't need to emulate some extant utopia, but we might, as individuals and groups, seize the freedom to choose what is best for ourselves in as many ways as we see fit.
LGBTQ+ communities (and their companions) saved themselves
Damn right they did. No one was going to help. The early AIDS crisis demanded a response, silence is death.
Now we have to do it again. As a good old fashioned cis male homosexual who could ‘blend in’ if I chose, I will be the first to bitchslap any member of the gay community that thinks we need to throw trans people under the bus.
We are in this together or we are all in grave danger again.
I think I got the joke.
Edit: nvm -_-