Canada

I classify myself as Fiscally Conservative.

However, I follow that up very quickly with the fact that investing in health, education, science, and affordable housing is net profit and any true fiscal conservative would want to direct as much of our money as needed into these programs, because penny for penny the returns on such investments are huge

A homeless person ending up in a hospital bed or dying costs us substantially more money than housing them, and once they get treated, fed, upskilled, and a roof over their head they very often proceed to turn into another taxpaying citizen which in turn converts red numbers into green numbers.

Anyone who just looks at the numbers can clearly see its basically just free money for taxpayers, you'd have to either be a complete idiot to not invest in it... or purposefully hateful and want people to suffer

I assume most "conservative" people are the latter, they genuinely cant wrap their head around the fact that making marginalized groups suffer costs taxpayers a lot of money

Police cost money, city cleanup costs money, hospitals and doctors cost money, handling corpses costs money, and of course you lose all the opportunity cost of -1 fellow taxpayer.

"Conservatives" tend to just not grok the fact that a large chunk of homeless people could easily be more taxpayers, but they just would rather demonize them and spend more money hurting them, thinking somehow that will magically make the issue go away, and ignore the fact it makes it worse, its so dumb.

Same goes for things like allowing abortion, at its core abortion rights inherently save such enormous magnitudes of money long term, and net profit. Forcing mothers to conceive doesnt fuckin help anyone and instead just costs us huge amounts of money, all just to inflict suffering on others. It's hateful and petty and extremely wasteful.

Same goes for trans rights, the most cost effective and safest way to treat trans folks is just provide them with medical intervention to align their body with their gender. It's by far the most cost effective solution, but for some fuckin reason "conservatives" would rather people suffer than save money

"Conservatives" straight up would rather spend billions of dollars hurting people than actually save money. Very stupid, and I hate how when I talk about actually being truly fiscally conservative, I get associated with such idiots.