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These vegan meat brands taste almost as good as the real thing. Taste tests prove it. (www.nationalobserver.com)

submitted 10 months ago by Sunshine@lemmy.vg to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can definitely tell you’re not trying to convert anyone to veganism. If anything, I’d say you’re trying to keep people from becoming vegan.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just don't see it as a religion to force down other people's throats.

And from your other comment, oils are processed foods on top of the fake meats still containing preservatives.

I'm glad you don't shit yourself, that means you don't need to pay attention to my warning about MC in the fake meats. Some people have reactions to it, though. Are you also going to tell me that Lactose Intolerance is bullshit because you've never shit your pants from drinking milk?

[+] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

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[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I take your point, but it assumes that I see killing an animal for sustenance as being needlessly cruel or violent in all cases. In factory settings with no regulation, yes it is most likely true. However, if you consider living off the land and all that, honoring the animal and respecting nature, etc. then I don't have an issue with it.

There are certain regions of the planet, like large swaths of the USA and many more, where killing animals for sustenance isn't needed at all in the present world. Yes, there are a lot of arguments for converting cow land into crop land. On the flip side there are areas of the world where the communities have to rely on their livestock for sustenance (whether by lack of infrastructure or climate or both), and it's probably 50/50 whether or not some do it humanely. Animals killing other animals for sustenance is something that has been a part of evolution and survival for a very long time.

I don't think it's fair to compare it like you are to child abuse for these reasons.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If I added some olive oil to a recipe, I wouldn’t consider it processed. Here are the ingredients of Impossible burger meat:

Ingredients: Water, Soy Protein Concentrate, Sunflower Oil, Coconut Oil, 2% Or Less Of: Natural Flavors, Methylcellulose, Cultured Dextrose, Food Starch Modified, Yeast Extract, Dextrose, Soy Leghemoglobin, Salt, Vitamin E (Tocopherols), L-Tryptophan, Soy Protein Isolate,

Vitamins and Minerals: Zinc, Vitamins (B3, B1, B6, B2, and B12)

Contains: Soy

- https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018937494-What-are-the-ingredients-in-Impossible-Beef-Meat-From-Plants

The only preservatives in there are cultured dextrose and vitamin E. Vitamin E occurs naturally in meat anyway, and cultured dextrose is just dextrose that’s been fermented. It’s used as a natural preservative in tons of foods, including deli meats.

Nothing in there is something I would consider “processed”, but I guess that depends on your definition of processed. If fermentation is “processed”, then tons of healthy natural foods are processed, including yogurt, cheese, kombucha, and sauerkraut.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a spectrum, not black and white. Ranges from minimal- to ultra-processed. I'm referencing anything more than minimal (which is as simple as slicing an apple). I have less GSI issues when my intake is raw and whole.

https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/processed-foods/

So yes, I would consider all those things you listed as processed.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Processed water is an interesting concept.

Or do you just mean cheese and yogurt etc?

I feel like the label just becomes useless if something like a bowl of oats is “processed”.