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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's finally over. Now get in someone who can beat Trump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Literally any straight white man center-right democrat born after 1968 would wipe the floor with trump.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, that’s not what I want. I want president Cortez. But presidents are chosen by money and by about 10,000 generically stupid swing voters in Michigan and Pennsylvania.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Im not american but i wholly support AOC4POTUS2028.
Or for a more catchy media bite: "A-O-C for the Presidency"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Voters in Michigan that voted for Whitmer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Senator Mark Kelly, he can do this

He flipped AZ to blue

He is an astronaut, all American, former servicemen

He can get red votes and blue alike

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't senator Kelly the one that created the mutant registration act?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yea, but who cares about those sub-human mutants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt Kamala will want to pull a sitting Democratic senator away from the 50/50 Senate given the elections coming up.

I think there is a greater chance that she picks one of the governors. My pick is J.B. Pritzker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That is true, I really was just spitballing, I’ll have to look into JB Pritzker, I’m regrettably unfamiliar with him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Ok, he is probably the best name anybody has thrown out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Hmm...not bad. Not amazing name recognition, but that could be remedied.

Having Gabby campaign for/with him, especially after the DJT assassination attempt, could be beneficial, too. (Or could look like a disgusting political plot, but that's really all our politics.)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kelly or Mayor Pete seem like the best options.

Buttigieg and AOC ticket? That would be the youth candidacy. Kelly and Buttigieg or vice versa would be more centrist but probably be the most robust candidacy.

I hate to say it, but in this political climate and with the threat of Trump, the best shot is probably two young-ish white guys.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This late in the game, it's almost certainly Harris. Probably picks a swing state governor like Whitmer or Shapiro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Or Mark Kelly. Regardless, it's probably going to be a white male from a swing state to appeal to as broad of an electorate as possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Harris 2024 babyyyyy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

yeah... i don't think harris is the answer....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If Harris is in, she can use the money already donated. Otherwise they have to start from scratch.

So it's almost guaranteed Harris will be in. Who they pick for VP is the question.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Can they still keep her as VP and put someone else on as prez?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I just don't think she can beat big orange. I'm not saying she shouldn't .... but I don't know ... doubtful

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

July 11th poll:

Americans divide 46-47% between Biden and Trump if the election were today, almost identical to a 44-46% ABC/Ipsos poll result in April. Among registered voters (though there’s plenty of time to register) it’s an absolute tie, 46-46%.

Were Vice President Kamala Harris to replace Biden as the Democratic nominee, vote choices are 49-46%, Harris-Trump, among all adults (and 49-47% among registered voters). Harris’ 49% is slightly better than Biden’s 46%, although she doesn’t have a statistically significant lead over Trump.

Also possibly key:

Both candidates [Biden and Trump] face a high degree of scorn. About 4 in 10 Americans say neither has the mental sharpness or the physical health to serve effectively, and as many say neither is honest and trustworthy. Sixty percent say Trump is too old for a second term, also a new high, up from 44% in spring 2023. And in a sign of the nation's political polarization, 50% say that given his debate performance, Trump should step aside in favor of another nominee -- although, in contrast with Biden, very few of Trump's own supporters say so.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

You can expect Harris's numbers to drop given she's vulnerable to almost every criticism Biden was except age and the fact that the Trump campaign has already been preparing to attack her.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

He was a prosecutor for years, so she has plently of oratory chops, and shes 20 years younger than trump to boot.

Her only liability is the she is a she and there are plently of sexist fucks out there. Thats it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You forgot that she's a POC and there are also tons of racists fucks out there.

Even before getting to her actual credentials (some great, others really not), people will be assholes. I still have hope that she, as a former prosecutor, could mop the floor with the fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

On the plus side, racist and sexist heavily overlap.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I find this so insane. People talk about who gets to keep the money, who has which rich asshole routing for them, which strategy has been successfull in the past, like always setting up the current president for reelection...

We need to focus on who has actually inspiring policies and ideas. We need to focus on these, because that is what the Reps lack. All they offer is "not the Dems" while the policies they propose are actually unpopular with many of their base. And the whole "Not Trump" strategy of Biden just fell apart.

Is there noone in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Is there no one in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

This is why I think Pete Buttigieg should throw his hat in if they do have a primary. He just had a Bill Maher interview that just went viral because he knows how to talk to the common people. I think his visions are inspiring, he’s done a lot of work for his department, and he isn’t afraid to walk across party lines and go on Republican shows to talk about the real problems. He’s smart enough to smash Trump in a debate, calling out all his lies, and even if Trump is too scared to debate him, he has no problem laying out Trump’s lies elsewhere coherently and cognitively.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

She'll have to be. Anybody else would be starting from square one, and that's a luxury we don't have right now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Half of America lost it's mind when Obama was elected, and we're still dealing with the fallout from that lovely dose of racism. There's no way Kamala could win in this country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Obama won. And then won again. Stop pumping up the reactionaries as some unstoppable force. They're a minority and have been on a long term losing streak.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

still the other half was enough to elect him

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

like all that aside, a lot of folks aren't appreciative of her background as a cop... but yeah that's a cherry to what you already mentioned

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And a lot of swing voters will probably like that she was a prosecutor, a "law and order" type.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think most of the "law and order" types might have a bigger problem with her being a black woman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She aint "black" as much as "brown." Its an incredibly stupid hair to split, but indians are generally considered a "model minority" by racists, so it will likely hurt her but not as much as you may think.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gavin is probably the least popular option of any names floated. I don't know who likes him, apparently some people do, but it's not anywhere near a majority of the country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

On top of that, you can add that there is no advantage to getting a candidate from California. This is why I never understood Harris as the VP pick. Ideally, you get someone from a swing state like Whitmer.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

It's not over... It's joever!