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[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

yeah... i don't think harris is the answer....

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If Harris is in, she can use the money already donated. Otherwise they have to start from scratch.

So it's almost guaranteed Harris will be in. Who they pick for VP is the question.

[–] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Can they still keep her as VP and put someone else on as prez?

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just don't think she can beat big orange. I'm not saying she shouldn't .... but I don't know ... doubtful

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

July 11th poll:

Americans divide 46-47% between Biden and Trump if the election were today, almost identical to a 44-46% ABC/Ipsos poll result in April. Among registered voters (though there’s plenty of time to register) it’s an absolute tie, 46-46%.

Were Vice President Kamala Harris to replace Biden as the Democratic nominee, vote choices are 49-46%, Harris-Trump, among all adults (and 49-47% among registered voters). Harris’ 49% is slightly better than Biden’s 46%, although she doesn’t have a statistically significant lead over Trump.

Also possibly key:

Both candidates [Biden and Trump] face a high degree of scorn. About 4 in 10 Americans say neither has the mental sharpness or the physical health to serve effectively, and as many say neither is honest and trustworthy. Sixty percent say Trump is too old for a second term, also a new high, up from 44% in spring 2023. And in a sign of the nation's political polarization, 50% say that given his debate performance, Trump should step aside in favor of another nominee -- although, in contrast with Biden, very few of Trump's own supporters say so.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

You can expect Harris's numbers to drop given she's vulnerable to almost every criticism Biden was except age and the fact that the Trump campaign has already been preparing to attack her.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

He was a prosecutor for years, so she has plently of oratory chops, and shes 20 years younger than trump to boot.

Her only liability is the she is a she and there are plently of sexist fucks out there. Thats it.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You forgot that she's a POC and there are also tons of racists fucks out there.

Even before getting to her actual credentials (some great, others really not), people will be assholes. I still have hope that she, as a former prosecutor, could mop the floor with the fascists.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

On the plus side, racist and sexist heavily overlap.

[–] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find this so insane. People talk about who gets to keep the money, who has which rich asshole routing for them, which strategy has been successfull in the past, like always setting up the current president for reelection...

We need to focus on who has actually inspiring policies and ideas. We need to focus on these, because that is what the Reps lack. All they offer is "not the Dems" while the policies they propose are actually unpopular with many of their base. And the whole "Not Trump" strategy of Biden just fell apart.

Is there noone in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

Is there no one in the Democratic party who can actually come up with a coherent vision of the future and inspire people to follow it?

This is why I think Pete Buttigieg should throw his hat in if they do have a primary. He just had a Bill Maher interview that just went viral because he knows how to talk to the common people. I think his visions are inspiring, he’s done a lot of work for his department, and he isn’t afraid to walk across party lines and go on Republican shows to talk about the real problems. He’s smart enough to smash Trump in a debate, calling out all his lies, and even if Trump is too scared to debate him, he has no problem laying out Trump’s lies elsewhere coherently and cognitively.

She'll have to be. Anybody else would be starting from square one, and that's a luxury we don't have right now.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Half of America lost it's mind when Obama was elected, and we're still dealing with the fallout from that lovely dose of racism. There's no way Kamala could win in this country.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

Obama won. And then won again. Stop pumping up the reactionaries as some unstoppable force. They're a minority and have been on a long term losing streak.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

still the other half was enough to elect him

[–] Qkall@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

like all that aside, a lot of folks aren't appreciative of her background as a cop... but yeah that's a cherry to what you already mentioned

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And a lot of swing voters will probably like that she was a prosecutor, a "law and order" type.

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think most of the "law and order" types might have a bigger problem with her being a black woman.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

She aint "black" as much as "brown." Its an incredibly stupid hair to split, but indians are generally considered a "model minority" by racists, so it will likely hurt her but not as much as you may think.