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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But hey, those records Joe *never had the authority for× were sitting in his Vette, and that's OK, nothing to see here folks.

Ffs the hypocrisy and lies.

Rules for thee, not for me.

So much effort to frame Trump, he scares the establishment so much. Pretty damn clear.

Steele Dossier fabricated by Hilary and friends, with clear evidence of such, since 2017. This nonsense over presidential records, which every president has done (and Joe did pre-emptively!).

The establishment (neo-cons, democrats, etc) have turned the US into a banana Republic... It's just a matter of time now before French Revolution II occurs in the States.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Frame Trunp" lol

It's hard not to feel like most of his fanboys knew nothing about him before he ran for president. He's a lifelong conman and proud of it. Did no one read his book? I did in the 90s and could tell this dude is the Steven Seagal of business.

Why defend this guy? There are plenty of conservative politicians who aren't total pieces of shit with awful track records. It's surreal that you elected a reality TV star to the highest office in the country and now you want to do it again.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

@glimse @BearOfaTime Let's not pretend that the #MSM would villainize any conservative republican who won the #GOP nomination. If #MarcoRubio, #RandPaul, #BenCarson, heck anyone other than #JohnKasich or #JebBush would have won, you'd be saying the exact same thing today about that person.

Not to say that #Trump is 100% innocent BTW, if #JoeBiden should be prosecuted for illegally having classified documents, so should #Trump. It goes both ways.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First off, what's up with all the hashtags? Your comment looks ridiculous and it's harder to read with links every other word.

Second, MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain. He's the poster child for scummy businessmen...a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I've been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years...and he's only gotten worse. Did you even read Art of the Deal? He's an embarrassment to the country beyond his status as a disgraced politician.

You're also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn't have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to. This isn't even getting into the likelyhood that he was selling said documents to foreign actors. Now there's mounting evidence that he tried to cover it all up. That's your man? That's who you think should run the country?

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@glimse

> MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain.

You're just parroting #MSM talking points here, not proving that I'm wrong.

> He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse.

Then why was he so well liked while he was a businessman? Nobody hated him until the #MSM criticized him.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not parroting shit. Like I said, I've been following Trump's shady dealings for 20 years. Clearly you haven't.

He's well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@glimse

> He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.

Do you have a source for this?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (34 children)

A source for what exactly? Public opinion?

You don't have to @ me every time.

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[–] amerika@annihilation.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@realcaseyrollins @glimse

As far as I can tell, Trump is popular among a range of social classes but also captured the college-educated conservative vote.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@amerika @glimse I would have loved to see him try to find one source corroborating his claim lol

[–] amerika@annihilation.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@realcaseyrollins @glimse

I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.

Choice of media, choice of story of the day (the thing everyone talks about), vocabulary... it's all different.

So there are things that are not strictly "true" which are taken as fact because they are needed to keep up these political tribal identities.

It's odd and unnerving but I think only when the two sides are BOTH extremist do we get actual options.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@amerika @glimse

> I socialize with a lot of Leftists. At this point, Right and Left exist in different worlds.

You'd be surprised. #HorseshoeTheory is a thing, but I think there's also a sort of inverse #HorseshoeTheory where people on the left and right converge on what ordinarily would be centrism or liberalism, but is now considered right wing due to the shifting #OvertonWindow. #Destiny and #BillMaher are two really good examples of this.

[–] amerika@annihilation.social -1 points 2 years ago

@realcaseyrollins @glimse

I think that's probably accurate. JFK would be seen as an extreme Right-winger now!

[–] EvolLove@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago

@amerika@annihilatieon.social @glimse @realcaseyrollins

That's not how I see it. I used to be a leftist and I know for a fact that all their argumentation is based on ideologies, where an idea is more important than reality.

While Conservative ideas are based on experience and tradition rather than wishful thinking.

Also conservatives understand that if someone else is paying, they are not free.

I will never agree to any similarity between left and right. it's children's minds compared to grown ups.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

@glimse

> You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to.

So? The law doesn't care; the criminal activity is having the documents, not refusing to return them or lying about having them.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all, you clearly are following the case about as much as Trump's business history...as in... not paying attention at all.

@glimse

> If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all

...I don't? He's on trial for many things.

@glimse

> That’s your man?

No, I've been criticizing #Trump during the entire #GOP presidential nomination process

> That’s who you think should run the country?

Not really, but he's way better than #JoeBiden