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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 200 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Same as it ever was. The uppers fuck up and labour has to do ethics and security training.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I've literally just had to do environmental commitments training. This from a company that has recently changed all our email addresses from @company.com to @company.ai

Apparently they're going to hit zero carbon emissions by 2050, I'm sure they will hit this ambitious target.

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 114 points 22 hours ago

I recently received an email from the office of Marco Rubio reminding me of the importance of ethical behavior as a government employee. My eyes couldn't have rolled back further in my head when I read that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 54 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

We have like 8-factor authentication. VPN, Yubikeys, auth apps, Face ID. I swear upper management does not have to do all this bullshit.

I also recently had to take a mandatory training on insider threats. Apparently being good at your job and also complaining about your job are two signs of an insider threat. Both of those apply to me, so I’m wondering if I should report myself as a possible insider threat. It doesn’t seem as fun as fucking a Chinese spy though.

Edit: also being bad at your job makes you an insider threat. So I guess you just have to be entirely mediocre, not too good, not too bad. Do just enough to get by, but don’t do too much. Or too little. Any outlier is an insider threat. Conform. Don’t be different.

[–] loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Edit: also being bad at your job makes you an insider threat. So I guess you just have to be entirely mediocre, not too good, not too bad. Do just enough to get by, but don’t do too much. Or too little. Any outlier is an insider threat. Conform. Don’t be different.

This immediately reminded me of "Snow Crash":

Y.T.'s mom pulls up the new memo, checks the time, and starts reading it. The estimated reading time is 15.62 minutes. Later, when Marietta does her end-of-day statistical roundup, sitting in her private office at 9:00 P.M., she will see the name of each employee and next to it, the amount of time spent reading this memo...

Y.T.'s mom decides to spend between fourteen and fifteen minutes reading the memo. It's better for younger workers to spend too long, to show that they're careful, not cocky. It's better for older workers to go a little fast, to show good management potential. She's pushing forty. She scans through the memo, hitting the Page Down button at reasonably regular intervals, occasionally paging back up to pretend to reread some earlier section. The computer is going to notice all this. It approves of rereading. It's a small thing, but over a decade or so this stuff really shows up on your work-habits summary.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I was also going to mention this, and since I took the time to dredge up the pages in question here is the chart of possible reading times for everyone's entertainment:

Less than 10 min. Time for an employee conference and possible attitude counseling.

10-14 min. Keep an eye on this employee; may be developing slipshod attittide.

14-15.61 min. Employee is an efficient worker, may sometimes miss important details.

Exactly 15.62 min. Smartass. Needs attitude counseling.

15.63-16 min. Asswipe. Not to be trusted.

16-18 min. Employee is a methodical worker, may sometimes get hung upon minor details.

More than 18 min. Check the security videotape, see just what this employee was up to (e.g., possible unauthorized restroom break).

Notice, of course, that the only winning move is not to play. As usual this is all eerily prescient, with the only quaint thing about all of this is that Stephenson apparently thought that surveillance camera video would still be stored on tape in the future.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

ICE buys 3 or 4 robot dogs, and it begins:

“As part of Mr. Lee's good neighbor policy, all Rat Things are programmed never to break the sound barrier in a populated area. But Fido's in too much of a hurry to worry about the good neighbor policy. Jack the sound barrier. Bring the noise.”

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

It doesn’t seem as fun as fucking a Chinese spy though.

Well... no. You'd be fucking Jensen Huang in this scenario

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

They do by default, but if they bitch they get exceptions. Because they are in charge.

Everyone inside your company is an insider threat. Just like everyone outside of it is an outside threat. The point is to ID/flag people who are are disproportionately more risky than the baseline standard of risk. The FedEx guy making regular deliveries isn't a flag, but if if he shows up at 2am and hangs out for an hour, yeah that's weird and you should investigate that.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

In fairness, "training" is usually a 20 minute PowerPoint presentation of Goofus and Galiant.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

I presented a 45-minute security training presentation to my company of 35 people. Boring, right? I practiced for almost a year, though I'm not afraid to speak in front of a group, I wanted it right.

Management brought in good food and had everyone attend. We all but shut down for this. Did I mention I'm not afraid? I was scared shitless.

I left 15-minutes for questions and we ran into 30. Everyone was engaged! One of the wildest things I've pulled off in my IT career.

Maybe I should update and make a living offering my little class. Hmmm...

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 18 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

I worked for a tech giant that is a homonym of Sysco. The mandatory security training videos were I shit you not animated cartoon animals. I would be deeply concerned about security flaws in their products, except that I never encountered anyone there that had anything whatsoever to do with their actual products, nor did I encounter anyone who themselves had ever encountered anyone that had anything whatsoever to do with their actual products. This abstraction from the product line was actually a common topic of conversation there among the employees.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The abstraction of everything is why everything fucking sucks now!

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

"Hey, it worked for the Manhattan Project!"

— Management book advice, probably.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago

The Manhattan Project sucked pretty bad on the receiving end, so that tracks

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

I would have said "Rhymes with Disco", but other than that I definitely very the vibe.

[–] Kenny4tunes@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TomArrr@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

"Do as I say, not as I've done."

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

Some companies are just as ethically bankrupt all the way down to the mailroom.

Once, I worked at a place that had, and I kid you not: "Ethics awareness training."

Said presentation had a few slides dedicated to mandatory legal matters and that was it. Ethics? Training? Awareness? Nevermind all that, did you know that we've always had Eurasia as a loyal customer? I didn't stick around for very long.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 37 points 22 hours ago

The training is not for you. The training is to protect the company.

If anything ever happens that results in some kind of legal action, the company can say they gave the employee the training and the employee successfully completed the training, therefore we did all we could to prevent this and we are not liable. So then it all falls on you.

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

I took a very similar presentation from the shadiest company I was ever employed by, specifically that "gifts and other favors" are generally guidelines to be followed by local customs. I.e. bribe away as long as you aren't in the United States. Weird as fuck for a company that solely does commerce in the United States to have murky guidance on this very clear issue.

My role here was very brief, they hired me for a licensed role and then paid me as a customer service rep, so I quit immediately after my first paycheck was about $3,000 short.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If the leaders don’t take accountability or ethics seriously, why should the employees?

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

because they can get fired. the leaders/owners can't.

[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Kratzkopf@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 hours ago

Not yet. Thanks for making me aware of them!

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

Do as I say, not as I do!