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Honestly, go ahead and do it. Show the world how far America has fallen.
America deserves to be in the same category as terrorists who produce beheading videos. This ensures it.
100%. They've been sleepwalking into this shit for 30-40 years, have spent the last two doing "shocked Pikachu" and REFUSING to fight back while the other side escalates into a full sprint.
At this point they deserve whatever MAGA gives them and I no longer give a shit- the best I can hope for is that their inaction comes back and bites them so hard the US becomes a cautionary tale for every other country where the far-right is gaining steam.
I thought I was being a bit vitriolic, but you're literally just a fascist. What a horrific take. You would have cheered on the Holocaust.
As far as I'm concerned, you just wished death on all my trans brothers and sisters.
Their take has the politics of like the bleakest possible form of defeatism: giving up and letting it happen to you, while hoping that something good might come out of you being steam-rolled. They're not a fascist.
Idk sometimes people gravitate to the most hopeless political positions they can find and adopt them because if suffering is inevitable, then you're more able to accept it on your terms and it feels more manageable. There's a good quote somewhere I can't remember that says the apocalypse has become an escapist fantasy from the real world.
I suspect @wizardoffrobozz@lemmy.ca does not live in the US, and like the rest of us is getting sick of the overflowing toilet spreading turds all over the house.
It's extraordinarily frustrating to have no part in US happenings, but to be directly impacted by the dumbassery.
Things have been getting progressively worse for the last 10 years and Americans haven't done anything about it. Perhaps you personally have, but Trumpism is the great shame of all Americans - your shared burden.
What you've just encountered is how most of the world feels about the US. No one actually wants you or your trans brethren or any other minority group to suffer, but there's nothing we can do to help you either.
It's not hyperbole to suggest that the best influence Trump can produce overseas is a cautionary tale demonstrating what happens if you elect right wing idiots.
So, with the greatest respect to you personally, I have to inform you that my respect for Americans generally is at an all time low.
Congratulations! Now you know how most Americans feel too in this fundamentally undemocratic country.
My point is, in some ways it's worse for us because we dont have any opportunity to promote change.
Literally all it would take for me to give Americans even an ounce of respect would be for them to make even the most modest effort to live up to the national mythology they’ve spent the better part of a century congratulating themselves for and belligerently forcing down everyone else’s throats.
No, I don’t hold other countries to the same standard, because they haven’t spent generations lecturing the rest of the world about their unparalleled courage, their moral superiority, and their supposedly instinctive resistance to fascism. They made fighting for freedom the centerpiece of their national identity. They demanded admiration for it. They treated any failure to provide that admiration as an insult. And now, when history finally asks them to demonstrate a fraction of the courage they’ve spent eighty years taking credit for, the pants-pissing cowards decide they’re helpless little babies and HOW DARE YOU, FOREIGNER?
I completely agree on all counts.
The economic, environmental, and moral harm is incalculable.
Later. Cowards get blocked.
So do fascists
So you're a pro-death Nazi asshole?
because that's what you've written.
Stop dressing your cowardice up as helplessness.
Stop dressing up your violent chest-beating as being anything other than you cosplaying as an antifascist. You're just some keyboard warrior wannabe.
You do nothing but elect "lesser evil" fascists that cosplay as leftist opposition. You're the problem, not people pointing it out.
Your lesser evil has been actively complicit in killing millions and destroying entire nations, and as long as you view that as acceptable to maintain your place at the top 10% of society, you absolutely deserve when the ratchet goes right enough to include you in the expendable sacrifice group you accept for others.
This is a discussion forum, of course they're sharing thoughts, but they're also sharing willingness to fight should there be enough fighters. Dismissing that as "keyboard warrior" is cowardice. You could communicate your willingness to fight, but all the likes of you communicate is blaming one person and willingness to return things to "normal", where normal is continuing to shift right and sacrifice the next group of vulnerable people.
The system needs ripping out, a revolution is needed, and electing a democrat isn't the solution to anything.
Both sides demobilisation troll.
Genocide loving Nazi who blames the victims for not supporting their choice of fascism.
Its funny how this place is awash with you guys now there's an election coming up.
What have you been doing to fight genocide since the last one ?
Shut up asshole, we have been saying this for years, but you Nazis refuse to support anything other than sacrificing us for your comfort.
Not that it matters, it's still a correct assessment regardless of election timing. You have nothing of value to say in response, so you can me a troll or a Russian bot or whatever, just keep voting Nazi blue no matter who!
For context, I'm Palestinian. I've been griefing my massacred people since the last genocide while being called names by assholes like you for asking for support.
This is why we say you deserve everything that's happening. You only care about you and yours, and we're done sacrificing ourselves for you, sacrifice yourselves, Nazis.
I'm not American. You're welcome to call me whatever you wish.
I'm genuinely curious who the Palestinian people want Americans to vote for?
The funny thing is, you think you sound like a badass and to everyone else, you sound like half a Russian pussy who's trying to stir up antipathy toward the Democratic Party.
In other words: you're a conservative pretending to be a communist, to turn people against the left. So you can fuck right off, Putin's Tiny Knob-Polisher.
I'm Russian? Good comeback, Nazi empathizer.
You're not the left, you accept genocide abroad as a price for your liberal domestic life. You're a Nazi.
lmao ok kiddo, have another hot choccy and run along
Of course a Nazi would find supporting genocides humorous.
The marginalized people who will be the first to lose their lives aren't cowards. The blood of the activists fighting the hardest will the the first to flow through our streets.
If you wish this evil on us, you're a fucking Nazi.
No, we aren't cowards. But we didn't sign up to be sacrificed for you to sit at home and vote for democrats, you're the nice-Nazi supporting cowards.
What are you talking about? They said they're marginalized person and nothing specifically about being a liberal. They said they would die for anti-fascism pretty much and you're calling them a Nazi?
In the context of the thread, the other person w"ished harm" on liberals, and the person I replied to identified with that group.
It read like sacrificing marginalized people to return to the Democratic rule and status quo. Because liberals do deserve Trump for the lack of empathy in sacrificing us, marginalized people. Only a liberal would be so offended by that statement.
But the user who was talking about "Violent chest beating" was the other person, I thought.
But, I agree, the (mostly white) liberals who tried to compromise on Palestinians, trans people, immigrants, etc. to win absolutely deserve Trump. Idk if the marginalized people who fell for their tactics deserve it, though.
That's what I'm saying. We, who's blood is being spelt fighting fascism, are not cowards. Liberals who think voting for democrats is fighting fascism while calling for our sacrifice are.
And when fascists start exterminatinf marginalized communities, you'll let it happen to teach Liberals a lesson? Truly disgusting take...
Liberals are fascists, they are exterminating marginalized communities, recent examples include Biden's genocide and blue states abandoning trans people.
Slow fascism is still fascism, you just elect to sacrifice us because you think the only alternative is to also sacrifice you, when in reality the only righteous choice is for both of us to sacrifice something.
Liberals don't want to sacrifice anything, you only want to sacrifice others on your behalf. That's the truly disgusting take, and it's really fucking sad that you still don't understand what I'm saying.
They didn't wish harm on "Liberals", they wished harm on anyone targeted by fascism, so that America can become a "cautionary tale".
I never said I was a Liberal. I said I didn't want millions of queer people and people of color get slaughtered for the purpose of blaming Liberalism.
That's not a defense of Liberalism, its a defense of the human lives that will be lost if Republicans get their way.
The average American is not targeted by fascism, the only thing they are upset about is gas and grocery prices. The average liberal is not targeted by fascism, they're infinitely offended by everything Trump is doing but excuse it when their side does similar things.
You scream at us that fascism is coming and that we must sacrifice ourselves by voting for democrats that also want to wipe us out, but they are not willing to fight alongside us.
That is key, the narrative from liberals used to be "vote for democrats so we can live to fight another day", but now it's openly "vote for democrats or else more of you will be sacrificed, do you want more of you to be sacrificed?"
If we're being sacrificed either way, we won't support the side asking us to thank them for sacrificing fewer of us.
You are defending liberalism, and guilt tripping us for not supporting the side that wants to exterminate us slowly.
The kind of shit you post when you don’t know that in the last couple years we’ve had multiple of the largest protests in human history. Sorry they didn’t make the fascist news media that is apparently your only source of info
Trump is trying to turn you against regular people in the USA (just like he wants to turn regular people in the USA against you) and it sounds like it’s working.
Wait… you think the SIZE of the protest matters one bit? When the thing you’re opposing gets WORSE following your protest?
Also, let’s call it what it was. It was a parade. And yes, it was very big and cute.
Unfortunately for white liberals in the US, protesting isn’t an end in itself unless you’re just using it as a way to telegraph that you’re “on the right side.”
Outcomes matter- and the only outcome of the once-every-four-months, “scheduled in advance,” “peaceful” No Kings parade was to communicate to MAGA that they are free to continue doing what they’re doing because their opposition is easily ignored and absolutely nothing to be afraid of.