Doubters gonna doubt, but I honestly do believe the time is coming where it will be hard to find any American who admits to having ever voted for Trump.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I'll keep reminding the ones I know who did. One of them is a narcissist who cannot admit he has ever done anything wrong or apologize for it. I call him dad.

Welcome to my trauma dump.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is going to be the problem. If the country is going to come together we have to be able to forgive and start building bridges together.

But I've watched Republicans say that too many times then stab us in the back by tripling down on partisanship I don't see the path forward because I'm VERY much in the same boat.

I don't have an answer to make it better unfortunately.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

we have to be able to forgive and start building bridges together

This is a nice-sounding sentiment, but in practice it just means not prosecuting Republican crimes during the brief periods when Democrats have a small bit of power. I'd be happy to forgive Republicans ... after they've been frog-marched to prison. Letting them off the hook has always meant they just come back worse than ever.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 2 hours ago

I mean... read the second part of my post. I'm not ready to forgive and most definitely not ready to forget.

[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can forgive the ones who say "I don't know what I was thinking". I can forgive the ones who say "I was tricked" or "I was not paying attention" or "I believed he blah blah blah". I can forgive the ones who are remorseful, and the ones who work to undue the damage they caused.

People like my father will never admit they were wrong, they will double down, they will tell me everybody is the same and we would have come to the same outcome. They will never admit they were wrong, they will never apologize, because they will always find an excuse to justify themselves.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 1 points 2 hours ago

I can forgive the ones who say “I don’t know what I was thinking”. I can forgive the ones who say “I was tricked” or “I was not paying attention” or “I believed he blah blah blah”. I can forgive the ones who are remorseful, and the ones who work to undue the damage they caused.

Nah.

First time around with Trump, sure.

Second time around. Anyone who was under 18 at the end of Trump's first term are the only people that get the pass. I was a dumb kid in high school who didn't pay attention either when I couldn't vote. But anyone after, he wasn't some "dark horse" or "outsider" or all the dumbass lies they sell.

But then again, I live in a state that's been red over a decade, who voted in the least educated governor in the union, that is about to get rid of income tax "because it's what Texas does" despite the fact our neighboring state did the same thing and nearly went insolvent until a Dem governor got elected for the first time in decades and fixed it, that our traitor of a Senator got voted as Senator before he finished his first term as AG despite campaigning as AG for not using it as a ladder to further political aspirations, then his protege did the EXACT same thing, and Hawley got re-elected. I've watched Republicans get shocked EVERY time they got fucked over, then promptly voted the same people who fucked them over because it'll hurt someone else.

I'd even say the people who were remorseful and work to undo the damage... but #1 Republican before Trump, McConnell SPECIFICALLY ranted and raved about how guilty of Trump was of trying to overturn the election and that he wasn't above the law... then did everything to stop justice. Republicans are only out for Republicans. If things get too bad they'll dial back the damage just enough to stop hurting themselves, then start hurting again.

It's why I can understand what we need to do to go forward as a nation is forgive... but I also cannot do it.

[–] czardestructo@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I thought that was going to be the outcome of the first presidency, but then they reelected him even after January 6th. He is still a king maker in this mid-term, all my hope is gone. Americans are hopeless.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It's gonna be like how everybody says they hate Nickleback now.

They sold 50 million albums to somebody.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago

It was me, I spent generational wealth on buying as much merch and albums and concert tickets as I could from Nickelback. Nickelback is awesome!

~~dont worry guys, I'll take the hit on this one~~

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

I thought that was gonna happen after Jan 6. But…. Here we are.