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[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 89 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

Scoring only 3.5 for software is pretty ridiculous, since Steam runs in every major desktop OS and SteamInput is crazy customizable. Most dedicated software for devices is either Windows-only or hot garbage (or both).

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

I feel like people, even here in this thread, have no idea what SteamInput is.

I dunno if maybe the original Steam controller had compatibility issues or what, but SteamInput has likely done away with all of that.

[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 hours ago

If anything, more reviews should lower the score for shitty software.

I love the OG Steam Controller, and I'm getting the new one for sure, but requirement to use Steam for full functionality is a massive downside.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 112 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

"I don't want a steam account" should be perfectly justifiable reason in itself. There is no technical reason why they can't split up steam input from the steam client for base functionality.

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 80 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly. If Epic released a $99 controller that required EGS running to work people would be up in arms.

[–] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I have been thinking about this for a while, and I don't think I would be.

A few reasons to back this up, firstly Epic have no hardware background and so I have nothing to have previous excitement over. Compared to Valve, where I have used the Index and I own the old steam controller and a Deck. Epic launching a controller just isn't exciting to me.

Secondly, there are a load of controllers out there, and a lot of good controllers. If I was only able to use the controller within the Epic launcher, I would just get something else.

Thirdly, this would be an epic exclusive, I am not sure I would have actually head about it. They are impressively good at being a marketing black hole.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I would normally be pissed about it, and do tend to get annoyed at every other controller manufacturer who make it necessary to use proprietary apps to make full use of their controllers.

But in the case of Steam, I'm already using their input software with every other controller I use for the simple fact that it is that useful. Also, it's probably only a matter of time before there are upstream kernel drivers.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The day GabeN dies I will fear for my game library and all the Steam hardware I've bought.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 58 minutes ago

Valves contributions to Proton and Wine already leave Linux in a great place for gaming, with or without Steam. Post-Gabe Steam is simply a matter of going back to the high seas. 🏴‍☠️

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

If he's worth his salt, there will be a decent replacement.

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 0 points 5 hours ago

Then don't buy the Steam controller. I would assume 99.9% of those interested in the "Steam" Controller will have a Steam account

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Hasn't someone written a wrapper to use the original Steam Controller without the Steam client software? I thought that was a thing years ago.

[–] becausechemistry@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

I want to meet the person who would consider buying this but doesn’t have a Steam account.

(I do not think this hypothetical person exists.)

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

It's still a negative because what if you decide you move away from Steam. Are you just going to throw the controller in the bin because you can't use it elsewhere? Are you going to keep the entire Steam client on your machine just because you want to use the controller? And that's assuming it's easy to use the controller with non-Steam games. For example from the review they struggled to get the controller to work with KCD2 because they booted it through Epic launcher and they couldn't set up the launcher through Steam so they had to take a completely different approach to set up the controller just for KCD.

My entire library isn't on Steam and that includes games I play with a controller. If setting up non-steam games is a pain in the ass for this controller I'm just going to stick to my Xbox controller because that's pick up and play.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I’m thinking about the people like me who have a Steam account, want this controller, but would also love to use it at our friends’ places where there’s just a Switch 2 or a PS5.

For compatibility, I’m better off using 3rd party controllers.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

It's probably true by definition since I imagine the first batch will only be sold through the steam store 😅. I have the original steam controller and as I've been moving towards GOG and Itch my steam client and steam account remains vestigially just as a bloated steam controller driver. Honestly I would also accept it if they let us use the client completely offline without an account as well.

[–] graynk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 16 hours ago

so they would have to write and support a completely new userfacing application that would have to run on 3 different OSes and inject into games upon launch. a bit too much effort considering 99% of the audience will use it with Steam.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

It would still be better if the controller did not require Steam in order to function.

Even cheap Chinesium USB controllers work out of the box with default drivers pre-installed with Windows and Android (don't know about other platforms).

[–] Stupendous@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine it'll be a controller of major interest to get an open source driver mainlined in Linux. Less likely to end up plug and play on windows and mac but I can see something happening on those fronts too

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, I reckon it'll be supported in short order by mainline hid-steam, seeing as the deck controller isn't much different.

I'll probably get one for that reason, but I'm not pleased at the lack of dual stage triggers. I also prefer the pads for everything, so my OG will remain primary until it breaks. I'll probably wait for a sale on this one or snatch additional OGs.

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I just plugged in the old Steam Controller on my PC and it works for navigating around KDE just fine. No Steam Client running. Right pad is mouse, right trigger is click, joystick or left pad to scroll up/down.

Weirdly it stops working when I fire up Heroic Launcher so I'll have to look into that. Works again if I also open the Steam client in the background.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think that has to do with the old steam controller getting recognized as multiple HIDs, which means Heroic Launcher with activated Gamepad support might not actually work. Try deactivating gamepad support in Heroic (as counter intuitive that might be).

(Can't try it myself because my ex got my 2 steam controllers for her PC to use as mediacenter from the couch + backup - we used it that way for a good decade and i have no issue learning something else, while she had to learn controllers from scratch when we met and it took a while, and i am not a sadist lol)

Edited to Add: You are using the so called "Snail Mode", which in addition to being as slow as it gets regarding input sensitivity on the track pad, it also is a fixed configuration which cannot be changed. The right trackpad is a mouse (and identified by the system as such), while most of the buttons and the d-pad map to keyboard commands. Heroic sees a gamepad, but there's actually no real gamepad input incoming, so it's not XInput-compatible.

[–] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 1 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for all that!