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[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

ironically i fear the SHIT out of right wingers, because they seem to actively want me to suffer before i die, for the crime of not being able to have a job

[–] SoloPhoenyx@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, they want everyone but themselves personally to suffer and die.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Which is itself a form of suffering, imagine the humanity they miss out on and what you'd be without it. Liberalism and fascism are ideologies that subsist on the concept that there is an imaginary amount of violence that can be inflicted outward to relieve internal suffering.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

There are a lot of “liberals” in the United States who are actually leftists, they’ve just been propagandized their whole lives into believing that’s what liberal is, and that “commies” are right-wing authoritarians. We need to awaken them.

Not all the “libs” are Bill Maher.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

I can't tell if you're joking, or if you actually meant to suggest that liberalism in the US -- the most violent and destructive ideological hegemony in human history -- could be socialism in a trenchcoat because some liberals sleep better with welfare liberal policies as opposed to the more honest and open genocide.

You know socialism was already popular in the US, right? For fifty years before WW2 it gained traction and its advocates successfully clawed away concessional labour rights and social-welfare programs. Y'know what happened? It did improve the conditions for workers in the US; and the institutions of white supremacy and patriarchy effectively disarmed its popularity once privileged classes got theirs. You're claiming to be a communist of some sort, yet have neglected a material analysis of this history. They will reward people who subscribe to liberalism with better material security, and we know it works very well.

Liberals in the US believe what they believe because they correctly identify that so long as this system exists, they will be guaranteed something above any colonized people. They aren't fucking stupid, they don't have to have theoretical language to apply intuitive knowledge on their position in an empire. Liberalism is a result of their position in that society, not some form of victimization that compromises some innate moral purity.

When I say they suffer, it's because of the fundamental ways in which a person who subscribes to that system must sever their connection to humanity and the world to maintain their comfort. It isn't because they're powerless.

[–] notacat@infosec.pub 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Or there is no benefit to introspection. there is no party left of democrats, so it doesn’t change my vote either way.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Learned helplessness.

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Its a death cult

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 13 hours ago

The fear of dying of starvation should motivate you to contribute in society

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