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Yhteisö instanssia koskeville tiedotuksille, palautteelle, metakeskustelulle ja avulle. Katso myös UKK!

Community for announcements regarding the instance, feedback, meta discussion and help. Check the FAQ also!

Users needing support can also come to our Matrix Space.

Tukea tarvitsevat käyttäjät voivat myös tulla Matrix-tilaamme.

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FAQ / UKK (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

Decided to make a FAQ because many new users here ask the same questions.

Päätin tehdä UKK:n koska monet uudet käyttäjät täällä kysyvät samoja kysymyksiä.


English

Q: I subscribed to a community on another instance, why it is all empty here? / I clicked a link to a community, why I got 404?

A: This was answered here:

It will fetch the first 20 posts when the community is first searched from your instance (but no votes, comments etc). Once any local user subscribes to the community, all new posts/comments/votes etc will be delivered to your instance. Old items will only be fetched on demand (eg if you search them, or if they are referenced by a new item).

Old comments and posts in a remote community should start appearing after subscribing, and you can try speeding it up by putting their URLs into Sopuli's search bar.

Q: Why I can't see a community X from instance Y from here?

A: Put the community's name into the search bar ([email protected]) or paste the whole URL there. Change the search's type to Communities. The community should be found from search results.

Q: What kind of server is Sopuli running on?

A: Sopuli is running on Hetzner's dedicated server located in Germany. The specs are 8-core processor, 64 GB of RAM and 512 GB of hard drive space.

Q: Do you accept donations?

A: Currently hosting Sopuli costs me ~30 € per month so it's mere pocket change. For anyone interested in supporting, I set up a Patreon profile.

Q: Why was my registration rejected?

A: The application was blank (no need to write a mini essay) or you had an inappropriate username (something racist or like @[email protected])

Q: I subscribed a remote community, what does "subscription pending" mean?

A: Most likely the remote instance doesn't respond or subscribing takes longer. Try to subscribe again.

Q: I registered but didn't get the verification email. Can verification be done otherwise?

A: Sure thing! Contact me and I will do it. Additional information

Q: Does Sopuli federate with Threads?

A: No.

Q: Does Sopuli allow bot accounts?

A: Whether a bot is allowed on Sopuli depends on the bot’s purpose on a case-by-case basis. Slide into my DMs and we can have a talk.

Q: Where I can find information in case Sopuli is down?

A: You can find such information from our Matrix space or following me on Mastodon.

Updated 21.03.2025


Suomi

K: Tilasin toisella instanssilla olevan yhteisön, miksi se näyttää täällä tyhjältä? / Klikkasin linkkiä toisella instanssilla olevaan yhteisöön, miksi tuli 404?

V: Tähän on vastattu täällä:

20 ensimmäistä viestiä noudetaan kun yhteisöä haetaan instanssiltasi ensimmäistä kertaa (pl. kommentit, annetut äänet jne). Kun yksikin paikallinen käyttäjä tilaa yhteisön, kaikki uudet viestit/kommentit/äänet jne välitetään instanssillesi. Vanhemmat viestit noudetaan vain tarpeen mukaan (esim. kun haet niitä, tai uusi viesti viittaa niihin).

Toisaalla olevan yhteisön viestien ja kommenttien tulisi ilmestyä tilauksen jälkeen, ja voit yrittää nopeuttaa sitä laittamalla niiden URLit Sopulin hakupalkkiin.

K: Miksi yhteisö X instanssilta Y ei näy täällä?

V: Laita yhteisön nimi (yhteisö@domain.tld) hakupalkkiin tai laita koko URL sinne. Vaihda myös haun tyypiksi Yhteisöt. Yhteisön pitäisi löytyä hakutuloksista.

K: Millaisella palvelimella Sopuli pyörii?

V: Sopuli pyörii Hetznerin Saksassa sijaitsevalla dedikoidulla palvelimella. Siinä on 8-ytiminen prosessori, 64 gigatavua keskusmuistia ja 512 gigatavua levytilaa.

K: Otatteko vastaan tukea?

V: Tällä hetkellä Sopulin pyörittäminen maksaa minulle ~38€/kk, mikä on pelkkää taskurahaa. Siitä huolimatta tein tuesta kiinnostuneille Patreon-profiilin.

K: Miksi rekisteröitymiseni hylättiin?

V: Joko hakemuksesi oli tyhjä (ei tarvita mitään miniesseetä) tai käyttäjänimi oli sopimaton (esim. jotain rasistista tai @[email protected]).

K: Tilasin toisaalla olevan yhteisön, mitä "tilaus vireillä" tarkoittaa?

V: Todennäköisesti instanssi ei vastaa tai tilaamisessa kestää. Koeta tilata yhteisö uudestaan.

K: Rekisteröidyin käyttäjäksi mutten saanut vahvistussähköpostia. Voiko vahvistuksen tehdä muuten?"

V: Totta kai! Ota minuun yhteyttä ja teen sen. Lisätietoja asiasta.

K: Federoituuko Sopuli Threadsin kanssa?

V: Ei.

K: Salliitaanko botit Sopulissa?

V: Bottien salliminen Sopulissa riippuu tapauskohtaisesti. Lähetä minulle siis yksityisviestiä ja keskustelemme asiasta.

K: Mistä löydän tietoa jos Sopuli on alhaalla?

V: Jos Sopuli on alhaalla, lisätietoja löytää Matrix-tilasta tai seuraamalla minua Mastodonissa.

Päivitetty 23.03.2025

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The formerly dead [email protected] is currently being used to push out the [email protected] community. Basically all added content is just reposts of content that's being posted in the ml community. To me this seems very much like harassment.

Are such hostile communities welcome on sopuli?

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dm restrictions (sopuli.xyz)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

Should there be somekind of restriction to sending dms? While these spambots sending stuff isnt overwhelming at the moment, they still shouldnt be able to do it so easily. In the future its only going to get worse.

Then there is also other instances, accounts from them can also send stuff so it makes this even more complicated.

Sorry that this is so awful to read, i would add more space between paragraphs but it doesnt let me.

  • min account age?

this would force spammers to make tons of accounts into "storage" and slow down their efforts.

  • some custom verification before sending?

not captcha or anything like that, it would have to me custom made so they would need to also build custom workaround. Maybe this wouldn't be so useful since it would be just temporary measure and a lot of work and also annoyance to users.

  • add some trivial task to the dm sending

Some really easy little minigame. If you want to send just one message then it wouldnt be too much of a problem but if you want to send multiple, you have to do it every time. Or make it a timer where you have to do something within x seconds. That should make paraller tasks quite awful. Problem with this might be that if its processed only local, then it could be bypassed unless its something really cleverly made.

  • manual accepting for being able to send direct messages?

This would be a lot of work for admins, though i dont know how big part of userbase even sends direct messages. Messages from other instances would create even more work.

On this email service called disroot you have to write an answer to a question like "tell us about your favourite food" which they seem to manually check when accepting new account.

AI likely makes this really annoying to verify since you have to judge is the text written by human or not. This might be good system with some creativity though, but still not good for processing large amounts of users.

  • manual accepting, but leave it to users themselves?

When you send message to someone, they have to accept receiving messages from that user first, before even seeing the message. This would at least hinder the bots if they can get something out of user just loading the image.

It doesnt even have to be a singular solution. Maybe different things could be combined like if account is younger than x then different things are applied to it. It just cant be too annoying to users no matter what.

Does anyone else have ideas how to deal with this?

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Hello! Sopuli was down today because of an error and the downtime wasn't planned. Sorry about that! As an upside, Sopuli now runs Lemmy 0.19.10, or "The Nicole Build".


Hei! Sopuli oli tänään alhaalla virheen takia ja poissaolo linjoilta ei ollut suunniteltua. Anteeksi siitä! Hyvä asia kuitenkin on, että Sopuli pyörittää nyt Lemmyn versiota 0.19.10, jota voidaan myös kutsua "Nicole-versioksi".

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There was a recent short downtime and I wanted to check for any support messages, but I couldn't find any way to view them in Matrix without making an account at some random server I've never heard of.

IRC usually allows anonymous logins for browse. Any way to get Sopuli status without additional account creation?

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[email protected] moderator is inactive (2 years)

Any local volunteers?

I could volunteer, but I have a remote account.

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Just got this starting yesterday evening. Cleared my cache.

It's the only instance on which I have this issue.

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They work on other instances, just not this one. I saw the other couple of posts about this issue, but they're old and it sounds like it's supposed to have been solved.

Image of the problem in Voyager, but it also happens if I try to open the post in a browser

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Hei,

olen Facebookissa yli 50 000 jäsenen Maata pitkin matkustavat -ryhmän ylläpitäjä ja yritän alkaa vähentää meidän riippuvuutta miljardöörimediasta. Friendican kautta löysin feddit.orgin, jonne viikko sitten tein tilin ja perustin meille yhteisön https://feddit.org/c/maatapitkinmatkustus.

Nyt ymmärrän tätä Lemmyä vähän paremmin ja tajuan, että olisin voinut perustaa yhteisön tänne Sopuliinkin. Feddit.org nimittäin on luokiteltu paikallispalvelimeksi, ja yhteisön kieliksi minun piti määrittää saksa ja englanti, vaikka oikeasti käymme keskustelumme suomeksi. Toinen ongelma tuli esiin, kun tänään latasin puhelimelleni Voyagerin: saan sillä yhteyden kaikkiin muihin palvelimiin, mutta feddit.org ei jostain syystä vastaa – onkohan se kovin tavallista?

Kannattaisikohan minun siirtää yhteisö tänne ennen kuin se kasvaa kovin suureksi? Käytännössä kai pitäisi poistaa yhteisö Feddit.orgista ja perustaa tänne uusi? Mutta mahtuuko tänne kovin isoa yhteisöä? Olisiko jokin muu palvelin sittenkin parempi?

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

I saw another complaint of "too tall" errors on images, I'm missing quite a few images with "too wide" error. Not sure what's up with the proxy but that's how the link shows in Jerboa app on Android. Open in web browser and I see the error:

{"code":"validate-width","msg":"Too wide"}

~~Other issue is the word r-tard being censored to blank space. I don't like it either, having a severely handicapped family member, but I can't downvote the (mis)user if I can't see them using the word. Not sure if that one is on our end...~~ (Not the fault of this instance!)

Thanks for the wonderful "liberal troll" instance! You're doing good if Lemmygrad is mad. 😂

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The community has been growing quite a bit lately and I really enjoy posting there so I could to volunteer for the role.

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Hello!

A new Lemmy version dropped several days ago and it seems that upgrading to it will not cause any problems. However the upgrade can take around 30 minutes for larger instances, so I decided to tell about this beforehand.

The upgrade starts at 15:00 Finnish time. Be prepared!


Terve!

Uusi versio Lemmysta tuli ulos muutama päivä sitten ja nähtävästi siihen päivittäminen ei aiheuta ongelmia. Päivitys voi viedä kuitenkin noin 30 minuuttia isoimmilla instansseilla, joten päätin kertoa tästä etukäteen.

Päivittäminen alkaa klo 15:00 Suomen aikaa. Varautukaa!

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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

when trying to upload this gif I kept getting an error saying it was too tall, even when resized to 200x300 it still gave the error. Not a huge issue as I just uploaded through my lemmy.world alt

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I randomly have the instance giving an error message, to come back a few minutes later.

Not sure if it's on my side or not.

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I recently noticed this lemmy instance in my all feed. They have an odd premise in their instance sidebar:

We are a down to earth instance who doesn’t get our feelings hurt or offended easily.

And then, on their front page today, there are some links to breitbart and some to russia today. When calling them out on that, I got this comment from their instance:

about as believable as calling trump nazi, you really sound fascistic imo

Is this some kind of right-wing instance? Should we defederate from it?

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I can't seem to post any images as of late. I either get a 413 error or a 400 error.

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

I sent a sopuli link to my wife tonight and she sent this back to me.

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Since the last update, deletions do not work and edits don't always federate.

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Lemmy version 0.19.4 introduces ~~3~~ 4 relatively intolerable bugs, and 0.19.5 only fixes one of them.

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Hello there! Because of performance problems and latency I arrived at a conclusion that moving to a dedicated server would be the better option for Sopuli in the long run. I looked at Hetzner's server auction page and got one from Germany with beefy specs: Intel's Core i9 processor, 64 GB of RAM and two 512 GB SSD's in a RAID configuration. The price isn't too much, around 38 € per month plus VAT.

I already told about the migration coming on Matrix and Mastodon but it's time to make it official here.

The migration starts tomorrow at 12:00 (Finnish time) and it will likely take several hours. Be prepared!

EDIT 27.06.24 19:48 I underestimated how long this all will take, and there were problems with restoring backups and networking. Regardless, the migration is done and we're up again!


Terve! Suorituskykyongelmien ja latenssin takia tulin johtopäätökseen, että dedikoituun palvelimeen siirtyminen on parempi vaihtoehto Sopulille pitkällä aikavälillä. Katsoin Hetznerin palvelinhuutokauppaa ja hommasin palvelimen Saksasta mehukkailla ominaisuuksilla: Intelin Core i9 -suoritin, 64 Gt keskusmuistia ja kaksi 512 Gt SSD:tä RAID-asetuksella. Hinta ei ole liikaa, se on noin 38 € kuussa ja lisänä arvonlisävero.

Kerroin jo palvelimen siirrosta aiemmin Matrixissa ja Mastodonissa, mutta nyt on aika tehdä asiasta täällä virallista.

Siirto alkaa huomenna klo 12:00 ja se vie todennäköisesti useamman tunnin. Varautukaa!

EDIT 27.06.24 19:48 Aliarvioin kuinka pitkään tässä kaikessa kestää, ja ongelmia oli varmuuskopioiden palautuksessa ja verkkoyhteydessä. Joka tapauksessa siirto on valmis ja taas ollaan ylhäällä!

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Should have maybe posted here first, sorry if main was not the correct community to start with.

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I forgot we have a Matrix chat server until after Sopuli came back. Thanks to Rynach for rebooting I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
 

I created the community aimusic. However it does not seem to federate to other instances.

Trying to search it from e.g. lemmy.world, mander.xyz or lemmy.dbzer0.com results in nothing. The pages just show errors. Also after a few attempts and using the search function from the respective instances yields nothing.

Did this happen with any other communities recently? Is this temporary and will resolve itself within the next days, or is there some deeper issue?

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Huomasin, että artshare-yhteisön viestit olivat vähentyneet valtavasti. Kysäisin asiasta, ja näyttäisi siltä, että sopuli ei saa lemmy.worldista viestejä laisinkaan tai niissä on viivettä.

Tässä esimerkki: https://lemmy.world/post/14776968?scrollToComments=true

vs

https://sopuli.xyz/post/12019913?scrollToComments=true

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