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From Trump’s UN speech that’s bothering me:

“We know and I know and I get to view it all the time. Sir, would you like to see? And I look at weapons that are so powerful that we just can’t ever use them. If we ever use them, the world literally might come to an end. There would be no United Nations to be talking about. There would be no nothing. Just a few years ago, reckless experiments overseas gave us a devastating global pandemic. Yet, despite that worldwide catastrophe, many countries are continuing extremely risky research into bioweapons and man-made pathogens. This is unbelievably dangerous. to prevent potential disasters.

I’m announcing today that my administration will lead a international effort to enforce biological weapons convention which is going to be meeting with the top leaders of the world by pioneering an Al verification system that everyone can trust. Hopefully the UN can play a constructive role and it will also go be one of the early projects under Al. Let’s see how good it is because a lot of people are saying it could be one of the great things ever.

But it also can be dangerous, but it could be put to tremendous use and tremendous good.

And this would be an example of that. Not only is the UN not solving the problems it should too often, it’s actually creating new problems for us to solve. The best example is the number one political issue of our time, the crisis of uncontrolled migration. It’s uncontrolled. Your countries are being ruined. The United Nations is funding an assault on Western countries and their borders.”

I need a little micro dose of hope.

Wtf

All the racism BS vanishes if you argue with culture instead of genetics.

I don’t think you mean it that way but this sounds very “I don’t see color” coded. Genealogy is the tracing of the descent of a person, family, or group from an ancestor or ancestors. That is also coded into our genes- mine, yours, everyone’s. There’s not inherent racism in that. Not saying that bad actors haven’t tried to twist it but it’s not intrinsically evil.

Also, the culture argument… Native Americans in the US have vastly different cultures. Pueblo and Iroquois don’t share language, artistic expression, construction styles, technology, etc. Their lives were and are vastly different. Tell Sioux and Navajo you think they share a culture. I dare you. They’re not going to agree with you they’re the “same”. But we can agree all of those groups can trace their ancestors back to North America, that is their home, their land.

Palestinians likewise don’t all share a uniform culture. My husband has ancestors from multiple cultural groups including Bedouin. There are also Christian, Muslim and Jewish Palestinians. All of them practice different cultural norms but they all consider themselves Palestinians and they lived together for millennia and even prior to the existence of any of the Abrahamic faiths. There has been ebb and flow and changes in society but a core genetic lineage, demonstrating their continuous presence, has persisted on the land. They’ve just always been there. Like the Ute in Utah or the Māori in New Zealand.

You’re concerned about weaponization of ethnonationalist rhetoric in a context where the power dynamics simply do not support such a concept.

Can you explain that to me? I don't follow.

You seem concerned about the way primarily Europeans have weaponized ethnicity. (Not saying it hasn’t happened elsewhere because it does; we’ve seen it used for other genocides globally.) But, a supremacist ethnonationalist rhetoric used by a State power for oppression is not the same as the nationalism of an oppressed people making an appeal for shared heritage and ties to their homeland to resist erasure and as a tool for basic survival and human rights as an indigenous nation. The power dynamics and motives of those two scenarios are vastly different.

PS — I just realized where this has been posted and it’s probably the incorrect forum for such an in depth conversation. I don’t think it should have been censored but I see the underlying concern and potential inflammatory nature of the discussion if argued in bad faith, which I guess I could see how that may be assumed without full context or knowing OP’s motives for posting. I’m going to leave this response because I spent time on it but probably step down from this discussion because of its location and its potential for devolving into a problematic discussion around a sensitive topic on a forum not initially intended for it.

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Do you feel the same about First Nations rights? About Ukrainians? Or does it just make you uncomfortable in the context of Palestinians? Are Indians from India? Or South Africans from South Africa? I fear you may have some implicit bias in play here.

One of the big false claims is that Palestinians are solely from the Arabian peninsula when that’s just unequivocally false. They’re indigenous to the Levant and it’s an important distinction to fight Zionist propoganda. Palestinians have the right to argue against being ethnically cleansed by stating their multigenerational ties to their home. Just like any First Nations people or other nationality. You’re concerned about weaponization of ethnonationalist rhetoric in a context where the power dynamics simply do not support such a concept.

I think eurovisions refusal to respect widespread calls for an audit also rings alarm bells on the integrity of the organization.

“How dare my made up perception of you disrupt my day!” - Kevin & Karen.

You mean the most funds for purchasing votes and the most “fans” willing to vote in multiple countries, multiple times.

Yet when you hear the movie described, it can sound rather aggressive in its dystopian topicality, like a bombs-away, knowingly over-the-top thriller-satire of where we are today and where we might be headed.

Uh, yeah, no. That sounds pretty accurate of exactly where we’re headed. Only thing really saving us thus far is this administration’s absolute incompetence.

America that’s become a fascist police state: a place where immigrants are rounded up en masse and placed in detention centers, where the police and the military have fused into an implacable authoritarian force, where a hidden cabal of Christian nationalists plan the future from a star chamber, and where a group of ragtag revolutionary guerrillas attempt to disrupt the regime through random bombings and bank robberies.

Only fantasy I see here is the last line. Everything else is well underway.

In construction we refer to this as a pizza party… pink slips to follow shortly. Hope you’ve been paying into that unemployment boys.

Even better