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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Physical games aren't the whole game anymore and haven't been for over a decade, is the main thesis. A DRM-locked (encryption and copy protection on the cart/disc are also DRM) physical copy that needs DRM-locked downloads to be complete is equal in preservation weight to a DRM-locked fully digital game. Once both releases are DRM-locked and download-reliant, I do consider the DRM-locked download that's still acquirable 10 years later to be better than the one that isn't. Both are shit, but like you said - spectrum. Disregarding piracy, The Old Hunters is better preserved than Champion's Ballad (Wii U).

Meanwhile outside of console land, DRM-free digital exists. That's the holy grail gold standard, not 60% of pokemon sword on a flash drive. DRM-free digital survives the CDN end-of-lifing. It survives my PC exploding, because unlike even complete physical games like a SNES cart, I can copy my DRM-free digital installer to as many devices as I want. DRM-free digital installs the version of the game I downloaded, without any connection to the internet. DRM-free digital survives the music license for a David Bowie track expiring. Even if every physical console release eventually got the "final cut GOTY" disc with everything on it, it's worse than DRM-free digital by virtue of being a physically destructible copy (though I do consider physical a relevant form of preservation for all the patchless console gens). Everything less than DRM-free (or DRM-stripped) digital is ephemeral. PC is the only platform that's DRM-free by default, and fully abandoning physical copies a decade ago didn't change a thing for preservation.

Consoles will never give us DRM-free digital, because the only reason consoles exist now is to be DRM. So the only relevant preservation of console games is dumping and cracking and emulating, because that makes them DRM-free digital, even though they're not legally such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

What I'm antagonistic towards is console manufacturers selling incomplete games on their DRM boxes.

Nintendo's the good side of the curve? Nintendo shut down the 3ds and wii u eshops when the console was half a generation out of date. If we lived in a world with no piracy and no emulation (and no buying secondhand consoles with paid DLC installed, because that's against TOS), and I threw my PS4 and Wii U into a wood chipper, I'd be one used PS4 away from playing my digital or disc copy of Bloodborne complete with the Old Hunters DLC. I don't even have to buy it again because Sony is sane and ties purchases to an account instead of a console. Meanwhile on the Nintendo side, I'm never gonna play as Cloud in Smash 4 again, with or without my disc.

How about the situation where Nintendo and Sony both stop operating CDNs for old consoles? In that case, they're equal at worst - I can play stuff I have installed until the console breaks, same with discs/carts. If the console breaks post-CDN apocalypse, and I buy a new one that can't access game updates, I'm stuck with infinite loading screens in Bloodborne and whatever the heck v1.0 of Mario Kart 8 was. Rhythm Heaven Megamix was never released physically in the US, and the 3DS is region locked, so if you want to get your hands on that, up yours I guess. Wanna experience the weirdest port of The Binding of Isaac to ever exist? Nope.

Nintendo released a limited run digital purchase (Mario 3D All-Stars), for Christ's sake! What's MS or Sony done that's even close to that? Pulled a free trailer for a canceled horror game? I can still buy PS3 games on Sony's store if I want to. On the PlayStation 3! From 2006!

Nintendo, MS, and Sony do not deserve any grace when it comes to this topic. They're all bad. It's just easier to overlook how bad Nintendo's preservation of digital content (including significant portions of games that also got carts) is when it takes half an hour to hack a 3DS, Wii U, or launch model Switch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Preserving the shit very few people care about is absolutely a more important thing than preserving the popular thing. BOTW's latest version will never disappear, neither will Mario 64, but the most ephemeral media in the modern landscape is always interstitial versions. You might be able to find the first cut of Star Wars before it was "A New Hope", but what about all those recuts and edits that happened between the original release and whatever the latest CGI-filled release is? you might not care about watching the "worst" version of Star Wars, but the definition of "niche" is "most people don't care". A speedrun glitch that existed for a week (without being pressed to the cartridge, even!) before being patched is absolutely something worth preserving, because unlike Ocarina of Time it's actually in danger of being lost (and would be lost almost certainly if the Switch wasn't hacked. You had to have the game for that week and then permanently leave an entire console offline to keep it)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Thankfully the Switch 1 was cracked day 1 so the preservation can got kicked down the road to the Switch 2 release. Look up what speedrunners have to do to get the optimal any% patch for Pokémon BDSP legitimately

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

I'm not "mad" about anything new to the Switch 2. I'm pointing out that anything "new" that indicates physical copies aren't complete games anymore or that physical copies will not outlive server end of life in a meaningful way Isn't new. Cartridges and discs have been glorified DRM keys ever since the first patch-enabled consoles came out - "the game" is always delivered in some part via patching, so "the game" is never preserved in any meaningful way by someone having a cart/disc. The only meaningful game preservation is DRM cracking and loadable backups of "all-digital" content.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (11 children)

The latest version of the game is not guaranteed to remain the latest version when it's getting rereleased on a new console. "No mandatory downloads besides DLC and patches" means yes mandatory downloads. They're free (or you-already-paid) mandatory downloads, but them being mandatory downloads at all are a bullet in the head of preservation - a banned console or end of service or a whole lot of things can lock someone out of the eShop.

Updates are never downloadable to cartridges on the Switch, and won't be on the Switch 2. Nintendo can rewrite a cartridge, the user cannot.

As for what happens if you try to load a save from a patched/DLC-installed version of the game on an unpatched/no-DLC version, the game tells you that the save is incompatible and won't let you load it. This is verifiable on the Switch 1 and Wii U versions of the game. I don't think we have concrete information on if Switch 2 will cross-save to Switch 1 via a Nintendo Account, so it's safe to assume it won't and Nintendo will do the same one-way System Transfer song and dance they've been doing since the Wii.

Here's a fun wrinkle to what Nintendo thinks about physical cartridges preserving downpatched game editions: the console firmware of the Switch 1 has a version whitelist. If you have the latest firmware on your Switch 1 and insert a 1.0.0 BOTW cart without being online to install the game updates, the system will not allow you to boot the game until you update it. This is because Nintendo fears exploits like Smash Stack on the Wii or OOTHax on the 3DS.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (13 children)

There's a new "DLC" that gives the game Switch 2 specific upgrades. Buying the fancy $80 cartridge includes this "DLC" on the cart, but not the existing DLCs. If you already have the Switch 1 game (as an install or a ~~glorified access key~~ cartridge) and its DLC, you'll be able to play that on Switch 2 and also able to buy the $20 "generation upgrade" as DLC for it.

The physical copies "have the game on them" but not the software updates and DLC, and once you've played on the updated version once, your save file is no longer compatible with downpatched versions. You're loading part of the game from system memory with or without a cart, so there's not really a functional difference between a physical and digital copy unless you plan to resell.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And don't forget that if you somehow lose access to the digital product called "v1.1.2" without losing access to your save file, you still can't use that save file with the helpful little bit of plastic you have with v.1.0.0 on it. This is very possible with 3DS games, because the physical cartridge stores the save file but game updates are installed to the system memory/SD card. The 3DS also ties your licenses to the console, not to an account, which means that if you lose your 3DS but still have your copy of Smash Bros, replacing the 3DS will let you redownload the patch but not re-buy or re-download the DLC. Without piracy or buying a secondhand 3DS from someone who has the Smash DLC, you'd never be able to be Cloud on Smash 3DS again.

Physical game copies have been practically irrelevant from a software preservation standpoint since the X360 and PS3. Nintendo took an extra gen to catch up as usual. The only meaningful preservation work that can be done for modern game consoles is cracking the console's DRM so that even the "digital-only" games and all updates/DLC can also be backed up somewhere that will tolerate the death of all Nintendo servers and devices. Thankfully, Nintendo's software has never had an era where this isn't true by the end of the console's lifespan (sometimes it becomes true really early, like with the Wii and Switch). We just have to hope that the homebrew wizards find something on the Switch 2, even if it's a limited exploit that needs a hardware modchip and only works on launch models.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Man, the switch to 3D just looks bad. Gungeon 1 has gorgeous pixel art and the pixel art style let them do so many wacky guns and projectiles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hollow Knight also felt like it was in dialogue with the Souls series, because the Souls series iterated on a ton of Metroid's mechanics in a new space. So it took Souls' "what if Metroid mapping, lonely mysterious vibes, backtracking and key/locks, but slower paced 3d combat and the keys aren't weapons" and went "Ok but what if we used the lessons we learned from you to improve the Super Metroid formula that inspired you?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Symphony of the Night is, in fact, the origin of the term Metroidvania but not in the way you might think. Castlevania pre SotN was a very different series with none of the elements associated with "metroidvania", so people started calling SOTN a "metroid-vania" derogatorily, as a Castlevania that was trying to ape Metroid. The term had staying power for the genre because what the fuck else are you gonna call them, it was before slapping -like on everything was popular but after calling stuff "clones" had fallen out of favor. No, "search action" will never be a thing. And you're not just gonna call them Metroids because that's one specific series. So after future Castlevanias had Metroidy stuff in them, it became a genre name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or it's actually running at 720p30 and being FSR/framegenned into a blurry shimmery mess. There's no way Nintendo managed to cram a chip powerful enough to render its own Switch 1 games at true 1080p120 into a tablet.

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