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[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 84 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I was worried so I looked for the source of the information, it seems to be from 'Washington State University" from their website they say it concerns "Commercial honey bee colony", so it might not be all bees (I don't know enough to say what the difference is exactly), they say "60 to 70% losses" (not 80), and they also say "Over the past decade, annual losses have typically ranged between 40 and 50%.", so it is probably worrying but not as much as the CBS article was making it seem.

Source: https://news.wsu.edu/news/2025/03/25/honey-bee-colony-declines-grow-as-wsu-researchers-work-to-fight-losses/

[–] xta@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

so worry but not panicking yet. gotcha, nothing will be done then.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Part of the panicking should be wild bees. They're dying at accelerated rates.

We also know why, commercial bee keeping is part of it, as is hobbies bee keeping.

And pesticides.. and monoculture farming.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 140 points 6 days ago (6 children)

We're pretty sure it's the Monsanto pesticide and anyone who suggests it is hit with a litigation threat. Curiously, as we're speed-breeding domesticated bees the wild bees are dying out faster, so as the bee population dwindles it also becomes more domesticated and less wild. I know that's a bad thing, but I am fuzzy on the why details.

I'm a brown thumb, and plants wilt as my shadow falls on them, but if you're a green-thumb, plant pollinators, which will help the bees.

Also plant milkweed for the monarchs.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Some beekeepers actually mentioned that they've been scraping the beeswax clean off their hives more frequently because its known that the beeswax collects pesticides and herbicides over time which affects the colony due to exposure.

The problem is its not just monsanto acid, there's a ton of other issues also correlated like weather/climate, seasonal flowering, untreated parasites, bacteria, etc.

We've literally nuked the environment so hard that even if we fix one problem, the population will not make a full bounce back (although I would think monsanto is the biggest threat)

Biggest scam of this century was corporate produce monoliths convincing people Organic was about health and not the fact that it doesn't use a scorched earth policy and scam one off hybrid plant seeds to grow food which has been setting us up for a widespread fammine for decades.

Some random superweed is gonna crossbreed with some rapid out of control growth plant and wipe out half of the food chain.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Plant native. Plants that are native to your ecosystem. Those are the true pollinator powerhouse plants that bees need to survive

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Also, the domesticated bees are generally honeybees. And unfortunately, honeybee and wild bees don't fulfill the same rile, so even if we replaced wild bees with honeybees 1:1, we still wouldn't be able to polinate everything.

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 90 points 6 days ago (8 children)

it's the European honey bee that's dying in unprecedented numbers

but it's not all bees

European honey bees are the easy button for farmers but they are going to have to decide if pesticide is more important or not

this nobody knows what's happening is bullshit provided by the likes of the Monsanto and other chemical companies

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 days ago (6 children)

They (save for a smarter minority) are 100% gonna decide that pesticides are more important. Until they learn they aren't, but it will be too late.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That's $15 billion worth of crops.

They just can't break out of that frame, even when the topic is EVERY LIVING THING FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

But also

"there are now an all-time high number of honeybee colonies in the US – 3.8m, around 1m more than five years previously."

According to the guardian

[–] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

We could always eat the rich.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 6 days ago

Everybody says this. Nobody posts recipes.

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Think of the shareholders!

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Imma go out on a limb here and blame late stage Capitalism and some sort of pesticide or whatever that could solve the problem if it costed 5 cents more but the solution is to save that money and let the bees die.

Imma take my chances on that.

[–] daddakamabb@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Idk about others, but mine died due to temperatures not reaching above 27 for 14 days straight.

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[–] donkeyass@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This doesn't say 80% of the bees have died.

[–] bigcow@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

I agree it does mention hundreds of millions but is confusing because...Shook said. "If we lose 80% of our bees every year,..." Not very clear in the article on exactly what percentage of the bee population died.

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[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 48 points 6 days ago (3 children)

honeybees are an invasive species, fun fact

unfortunately they outcompeted a lot of the native pollinators so we're fucked without them though

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

humans are a more invasive species, probably the most

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Care about the environment? Great me too. Thats why im asking ya'll to sign up for the General strike.

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Share it with your family, friends, social media.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I am in Canada. But I wholly support this. We must defeat the cheeto madman.

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[–] VampirePenguin@midwest.social 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Want to help? Plant pollinator gardens. Easy peasy. Even some pots of local wildflowers on your patio. It all helps.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The longer I live the more I see modern civilization collapse inevitable and happening in the relatively near future.

How the fuck do you even prepare for something like that?

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Bees have been under assault for a while.

It's hive mites. The Varroa mite is going to wipe out all bees from the planet. And there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

Source: talked to a beekeeper.

[–] phi@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

there’s a fungus that protects against the mites and it’s being researched. it’s genius, the bee picks up the fungus in a contraption where it has to crawl through to get to nectar and then brings it back to the hive. i read it in Merlin Sheldrake’s Entangled Life.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

LETS KEEP PUMPING CAPITALISM UP

NEW IPHONE WITH AI LETS GOOOOO

Sorry for getting all excited, it’s just we don’t have much time.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Bees live less than two months, so if only 80% of bees died in the last 8 months that would suggest a sharp recent population increase. And even if you take it as read that it means bees dying and not being replaced, 8 months is still a terrible timeframe to use because it's literally saying "there are 80% fewer bees now, at the tail end of winter, than there were at the height of bee season".

I'm not saying there isn't a bee crisis, just that this factoid is very badly worded.

[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago

Without looking at data it could also mean "beginning 8 months ago we noticed a downwards trend of bees compared to the prior year(s) that culminates to an 80% decline at the time of writing."

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[–] Dropper_Post@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

well if that is the case, humans can take pollinator job roles when AI will take their excel jobs.

[–] WickedPissah@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for researching this! Still not good news for bees 🐝 😪

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Imagine when we find out bees were the only thing holding it all together.

Aaaaand, it's over.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's like nobody paid attention to bee movie.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

At least i saved one from my dogs water bowl yesterday 🤷‍♀️

[–] Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago

Shame. The US is a beautiful country and psycho cult rednecks have let deregulation ruin such beautiful wilderness.

Pesticides, same as always.

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