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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/35321653

Members of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine warned Americans of ‘real danger in this moment’

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

To who? Republican voters who will never see this in their feed, or already hate scientists as elites out to get them? Government leaders who openly hate them, either for personal gain or real pseudoscientific beliefs? Opposition who can't do anything about it, and might not if they could anyway? Profit-obsessed news outlets who would never feature something as boring as this unless it's already something their audience wants to hear?

It's too late.

I swear, organizations like this are communicating like it's 1950 as the entire country sleepwalks into an information dystopia. They need to be loud, sensationalist if not outright propagandist, get on podcasts and Fox, game commercial social media and otherwise shun it if they want to change any minds.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

It's still very important to take a stand and speak out. Even if that in itself is not enough, it's still necessary. Putting out this statement doesn't mean that's the only thing they're doing. When fighting for a cause you have to state your principles, call out the problems you see, and motivate others to join you in the cause.

“The nation’s scientific enterprise is being annihilated and the silence of too many of our scientific leaders is only making the ongoing catastrophe worse,” said Dr Robert Steinbrook, health research group director at Public Citizen, a consumer advocacy group. “The ‘SOS’ signal from 1,900 scientists must be a wake-up call for our leading scientific and medical organizations to show courage and speak out at this critical moment,” he said. “If scientists and scientific and medical organizations will not forcefully speak out in defense of science and public health, who will? There is no alternative.”

Responses in this thread dismissing people for speaking out is worse than doing nothing. If you aren't going to do something, at least don't disparage others for doing what they can.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People ain't gonna do shit until it either kills their pocketbooks or they start dying themselves, in large numbers. And then they'll find a way to blame it on those damn elite scientists.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

“If they’re soo smart, why didn’t they WARN us?”

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is for warning in this format. Mind as well post it on a private chat.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fukkem. Let them parent their own kids. At the rate we're going they're not going to live much longer than us, anyway.

ETA: of course security is important. I was a bit gobsmacked* having just read this article: https://kbin.earth/m/politics@lemmy.world/t/1131211/Why-Elon-Musk-and-JD-Vance-Are-Obsessed-With-You

2nd edit: autocorrect

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Wow. I knew they were sick, but holy shit, I didn't realize they were that sick.

Cool. How many letters did it take to stop Hitler? I forget.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Was it a letter, or are they just testing a hypothesis?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Leave the US, now, while you're still allowed to.

The US is done for, it's an ex super power, I'm guessing Europe will take over that banner soon

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's not quite over yet. You go on with that attitude and you won't have any options left.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago

Sale on Scientists!