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When did Pokémon switch and put the story first? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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I grew up with Pokémon red and gold. In those games, you can kind of just ignore the story and play through the game.

At some point Pokémon seemed to switch, and have so much more dialog forced upon you, especially in the early game.

When did this start? Was it with Pokémon X and Y or did it come later? I know Sun and Moon felt that way to me.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Black and White.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks! I plan to replay them up until that point.

A follow up question, I’ve never played diamond/pearl. Should I play the switch or the ds versions?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've only played the DS versions, so can't say, but I would presume the Switch versions fix the most notorious problems (like the inexplicably slow Surf speed) so assuming they don't also do something stupid and unnecessary like nerf the difficulty or rewrite the dialogue, they'd likely be best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks! I wasn’t aware of the issues, so I’ll watch a comparison video when I get to that point.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're up for emulating anyway I'd recommend Platinum. The Switch remakes were mostly faithful to the original D/P but not the improvements from Platinum. They do not fix many problems, and IMO they feel absolutely horrible to play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks! I just checked comparison a of the games and I was happy to see that platinum fixed the surf speed.

I’m totally going to go that route.

I just need one more badge in gold? Elite 4, then johto

After that, I’ll do emerald, then platinum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've played through both. The switch versions are very faithful to the originals, with a few things that stood out to me as different:

The bikes are implemented differently, so some of the bike puzzles can be easily cheesed.

Fairy type is present.

The underground has been redesigned to focus on catching Pokemon instead of multiplayer.

Elite 4 rematches are much more difficult.

There are a variety of small improvements throughout the game otherwise, so I think it would be fine to play these ones. If you want to experience both versions of gen 4 in some way, you could also play Platinum on the DS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, I think I’ll go the platinum route.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think I really started noticing it in X and Y. I got to the second city and they introduced like 4 kinda-rivals and I'm like "I really don't care about any of these people".

I want to go collect magical animals, not go to school or whatever the most recent one is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was White version for me. I quit halfway through because of the story stuff and didn't touch the series again until Sword was a few years old. The last straw was the 3rd or 4th time I got to a gym and the leader told me to go do plot crap with Team Villain before I could challenge for a badge. I don't care and it's not my job, I'm fuckin 10.

With Scarlet you can take hours getting to school while you collect everything in the first couple of areas, then after 20 minutes of plot you're back in an almost completely open world (barring the post-game area). It's the best it's ever been if you're just into collecting stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I dunno. Ive only played white in japanese and didnt notice any real difference

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah! Exactly. I rarely care about a games story and Pokémon doesn’t let you skip any of that stuff.

Each time it comes up it’s like a boring interruption to the game.

It’s the main reason that I stopped playing those games.

I think I’ll play up to black and white 2, but if there is too much story, I’ll just drop it.