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Remember when politicians said everyone should get covid to develop heard-immunity? And then we had more than one million deaths since then?

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[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 128 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What if there was a way for everyone’s body to know about measles, without actually getting measles.

That would be pretty cool huh?

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but you'd have to kind of train everyone's immune system by somehow introducing it to the virus without the person actually getting infected.

Seems impossible.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What if we did something to the virus so that it couldn't make us sick, but still made our bodies thing we were sick?

[–] varjen@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

That's just a bunch of jibber-jabber and will never work!

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did this way today! (am old person so needed booster).

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is a witch. Burn them.

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[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 112 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's the opposite of combating. That's just giving up.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"If we let people starve to death, we can solve the food crysis!"

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

dead people don’t starve

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

FYI - "Crysis" is an intentional misspelling of the word "crisis" for the purpose of the title of a video game.

I guess they thought the Y made it cooler? I dunno, but it definitely never worked for people's names. Karyn is so much worse than Karen.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

It's like an AI ran the calculations and determined eradication of the species will minimize suffering. Except we didn't need an AI, just a really dumb guy.

[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 96 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Also measles resets your immune system. Your immune system keeps records of all the crap it's fought, making it easier to fight next time. When you get measles, it's like you're a new born. So he's not only allowing ppl to die, he's making it easier for future illnesses to kill as well.

article on measles

Two studies of unvaccinated children in an Orthodox Protestant community in the Netherlands found that measles wipes out the immune system’s memory of previous illnesses, returning it to a more baby-like state, and also leaves the body less equipped to fight off new infections.

The first paper, led by Velislava Petrova, of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Cambridge University, says measles erodes two separate lines of defence of the immune system.

To tackle previously unseen infections, the immune system relies on constantly pumping out a diverse range of immune cells – thousands of different varieties, each with slightly different receptors on their surfaces, with a collective ability to recognise almost any pathogen.

“The more diverse range of them we have, the better,” said Petrova. However, after measles, the children had a far more restricted range.

The immune system also creates long-lived memory cells, which remain permanently in circulation, allowing the body to rapidly recognise and eliminate previously encountered infections.

However, after measles, a substantial proportion of immune memory cells had disappeared from the children’s blood, in what the scientists described as “immune amnesia”. This could even mean that children who become infected with measles may need to be revaccinated for previous diseases.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 11 months ago

Holy shit is that grim.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this basically reset the COVID pandemic back to where we were in 2021?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

No.

The problem isn't people who have been vaccinated against measles, the problem is people who haven't, can't, or are otherwise immunocompromised.

Those people would have all of their immunities reset. People who don't get measels because they have the vaccination will be unaffected.

Plus the current COVID variant is quite unlike the one in 2021, and we'll all need to get vaccinated against the next surviving variant anyway. Coronaviruses suck in that way.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I... didn't say the problem was people vaccinated against measles? I'm saying unvaccinated people will have their COVID immunity reset, regardless of natural immunity from previous infections. Basically the pandemic starts over for unvaccinated people.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it really still news that USA has gone crazy?

Sorry I asked the same on another story that was also crazy, but this one is even crazier! 🤡

[–] littlebrother@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not crazy.

I wish people would see that, this is years of bad policy coming to light.

This isnt maliciousness or apathy. This is stupidity, while the south and midwest excel and continue this. The Republicans and those in power continue to dismantle education.

Why. Because stupidity is a force greater than evil. You can't argue with it, you can't change it, you can't reason with stupidity.

A democracy is only as good as it's continued excellence in education, learn from this Europe and be better.

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[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 11 months ago
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

MAGAs: “Everyone should get covid”

Doctors in Huston setting up overflow field hospitals in parking lots: “For the love of fuck. Please stop.”

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

What a fucking moron.

If there were only a way to introduce everyone to the virus with no risk of suffering the symptoms of the disease. Wouldn’t that be amazing?

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Its terrifying that the health secretary has no idea how serious measles is. Fatalities are pretty high, its not at all like the common cold.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think they know. I think we are realising these people are eugenicists.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

The entirety of Mango Mussolini's cabinet first.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, via vaccine ya fucking doofus

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

If only we could give everyone the illness, but like without all the death or lifelong damage it causes...

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

RFK Jr., a man vaccinated against the measles, says your kids should get measles.

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[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Let's end drunk driving by making it legal and actually forcing everyone to drunk drive. Nobody left to drunk drive if everyone's dead

[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago

He should lead by example.

Maybe the entire Trump ~~closet~~ cabinet should have a measle party to show how it's done!

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Wow so the solution is to do nothing, seems oddly convenient for a certain group of people

[–] rockhard@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

If I'm not mistaken parts of the SF Bay Area had measles parties like 10-15 years ago when the anti-vaxx thing was really becoming trendy. Parents would take their kids to try to get them infected. It's as stupid today as it was before. Fuck these people.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

People who intentionally infect their children with deadly pathogens and assist in spreading disease should face criminal charges.

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 11 months ago

Well actually we already do that, its called vaccines you fuckers

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

inb4 the cdc recommends you drink your own piss.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

He should be the first

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So we're up to literally demented individuals trying to kill us all being in charge.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 11 months ago

I fucking love this country and the fact it has nukes.

[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

Measles would be even more catastrophic.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

He should get it first, would be a shame if he died and it would scare people into action.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 11 points 11 months ago

I'm still waiting for him to actually tackle whats in our food since that was his whole shtick.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

Measles kills memory cells, effectively factory resetting your immune system.

[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is just continuation of the same line of thinking, created by the infamous Great Barrington Declaration. Now Jay Bhattacharya & co get to reap what they sow... with mass death and disability.

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[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

In 1962, the rate of deaths from measles was 0.2/100k among the population.

Doesn't sound like a l... Ohhh. It's the full population in 1962, not out of the people who got measles.

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The best strategy for combatting Trump Derangement Syndrome is also for everybody to get it?

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago

Measles is a gift from grandpa nurgle. Take it in! -RFK probably

Seriously the dude has a worm too. He serves nurgle.

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