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If some things get downvoted way out of proportion, and those downvotes come mostly from people in certain instances, and instances have the power to block each other, it stands to reason some instance out there managed to block the instances that contribute the most downvotes, causing them to have mainly upvotes. Right?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Some instances just disable downvotes. I have no idea exactly how that functions exactly, but I'd guess that matters. IIRC Beehaw and Lemmynsfw have both disabled downvotes. There's probably more.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To be clear, you can still be heavily downvoted, you just won't see it.

They disable downvotes on their own instance, which means they also don't federate downvotes from other instances to their own.

I can still be heavily downvoted on say, lemmy.world, I just won't see it. People using the instance the downvotes are originating on will see it, however.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

beehaw definitely

"how that functions exactly" - well, you just change the code to ignore it when a user does try to downvote something, don't store it in the database or forward it to other users/servers...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's just an option in the admin settings to enable or disable downvotes, no code editing needed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, that is even easier, TIL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean more in relation to federation. I'm not sure how downvotes work with federation as a whole, honestly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As far as I understand ActivityPub (which, admittedly, is only very rudimentarily), downvotes are an action like any other: you perform them on your instance, then the instance sends them to the instance the community is hosted on, then that instance sends them to all instances which have users who are subscribed to it.

An instance which has disabled downvotes will ignore all of that, i.e. will not store downvotes or forward them to anyone. If you look at beehaw.org you can see all posts and comments are displayed with zero downvotes, even if you view them from another instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That answered my question exactly, thanks very much!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Mine disables it also (blahaj.zone).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know where you're seeing this and why it's such a concern. In general, Lemmy denizens are more down-to-earth than redditors, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You don’t need to know where they’re seeing this or why it’s such a concern. This is No Stupid Questions. It’s not a requirement that they justify their question to your satisfaction. Their question had nothing to do with the temperament of users, either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't mean to dismiss them; maybe my wording could have been better. I'm curious about where it's being seen; sure, I don't need to know, but I want to know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

If some things get downvoted way out of proportion

A thing I learned on that other site starting with a R is that Up/Down votes aren't rational you can get a lot of votes for a one line joke not answering the question, and get downvoted for a long argumented paragraph without anybody telling you wha't s wrong. So I tend to not care about votes.

Indeed, I don't get why upvotes are public, but downvotes are hidden unless you have some admin rights on an instance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Depends on the topic.

If you say something against communism you will get a bunch of lemmy.ml downvotes.

As an example

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

If you really want to get downvoted, say something against Sleepy Joe Biden or Kamalama Ding Dong. Or how Lemmy is just like Reddit in that it's a huge, shit-lib circle-jerk. Don't get me wrong, I hate the Orange Asshole and the Autistic Nazi, but I think there are too many bougie pretend liberals on here to get a balanced viewpoint.