Nice, now do AWS. That thing's impossible to escape. Well, with effort you could migrate to another American cloud, like Google or Azure (Microsoft).
Hopefully Hetzner will get there one day, but they're really far from being a competition to the 3.
this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
162 points (98.2% liked)
Buy European
7891 readers
1798 users here now
Overview:
The community to discuss buying European goods and services.
Rules:
-
Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.
-
Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:
-
Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.
-
No russian suggestions.
Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:
- No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
- No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
- No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
- Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
- Do not spam or abuse network features.
- Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
- No generative AI content.
Useful Websites
-
General BuyEuropean product database: https://buy-european.net/ (relevant post with background info)
-
Switching your tech to European TLDR: https://better-tech.eu/tldr/ (relevant post)
-
Buy European meta website with useful links: https://gohug.eu/ (relevant post)
Benefits of Buying Local:
local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.
European Instances
Lemmy:
-
Basque Country: https://lemmy.eus/
-
๐ง๐ช Belgium: https://0d.gs/
-
๐ง๐ฌ Bulgaria: https://feddit.bg/
-
Catalonia: https://lemmy.cat/
-
๐ฉ๐ฐ Denmark, including Greenland (for now): https://feddit.dk/
-
๐ช๐บ Europe: https://europe.pub/
-
๐ซ๐ท๐ง๐ช๐จ๐ญ France, Belgium, Switzerland: https://jlai.lu/
-
๐ฉ๐ช๐ฆ๐น๐จ๐ญ๐ฑ๐ฎ Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein: https://feddit.org/
-
๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: https://sopuli.xyz/ & https://suppo.fi/
-
๐ฎ๐ธ Iceland: https://feddit.is/
-
๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://feddit.it/
-
๐ฑ๐น Lithuania: https://group.lt/
-
๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: https://feddit.nl/
-
๐ต๐ฑ Poland: https://fedit.pl/ & https://szmer.info/
-
๐ต๐น Portugal: https://lemmy.pt/
-
๐ธ๐ฎ Slovenia: https://gregtech.eu/
-
๐ธ๐ช Sweden: https://feddit.nu/
-
๐น๐ท Turkey: https://lemmy.com.tr/
-
๐ฌ๐ง UK: https://feddit.uk/
Friendica:
-
๐ฆ๐น Austria: https://friendica.io/
-
๐ฎ๐น Italy: https://poliverso.org/
-
๐ฉ๐ช Germany: https://piratenpartei.social/ & https://anonsys.net/
-
๐ซ๐ท Significant French speaking userbase: https://social.trom.tf/
-
๐ต๐ฑ Poland: soc.citizen4.eu
Matrix:
-
๐ฌ๐ง UK: matrix.org & glasgow.social
-
๐ซ๐ท France: tendomium & imagisphe.re & hadoly.fr
-
๐ฉ๐ช Germany: tchncs.de, catgirl.cloud, pub.solar, yatrix.org, digitalprivacy.diy, oblak.be, nope.chat, envs.net, hot-chilli.im, synod.im & rollenspiel.chat
-
๐ณ๐ฑ Netherlands: bark.lgbt
-
๐ฆ๐น Austria: gemeinsam.jetzt & private.coffee
-
๐ซ๐ฎ Finland: pikaviestin.fi & chat.blahaj.zone
Related Communities:
Buy Local:
Continents:
European:
Buying and Selling:
Boycott:
Countries:
Companies:
Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:
Banner credits: BYTEAlliance
founded 11 months ago
MODERATORS
OVHcloud is an option, thatโs what I migrated to.
Just opened the page and there's no deny all button for cookies, not a great start.
Edit: Checked their offering, not even quarter of our needs would be met.
Going away from AWS ranges anywhere from trivial to literally impossible. If you for example only use S3 there are drop in replacements so you basically only have to change one config file once.
But they offer stuff that has no replacements that I just learned of recently. For example did you know IMDb has an API? Well itโs only usable via AWS. I mean yeah it makes sense from a business perspective and itโs a real niche edge case, but if you, like me, wanna access IMDb programmatically, welpโฆ. time to parse HTML like a caveman.
Depending on your exact needs, Scaleway can also be an option.
My company doesn't use any American cloud providers.
Looks interesting! Though it can't really replace all the features of AWS, it definitely looks like one day it could.
More and more, I think the best replacement for a cloud drive is just Syncthing.
I went through the list and wrote what I use to replace it.
- Microsoft Office 365
-- Mail -> Tuta
-- Calendar -> I don't use a calendar, but Tuta would be my option
-- OneDrive -> I still use OneDrive, but I'm also using Filen.io and Syncthing
-- Documents* -> ONLYOFFICE (Documents) - Bitwarden -> KeePassXC and Keepass2Android
- GitHub -> I still use GitHub...
- Google search -> SearXNG with several search engines
*Documents weren't listed or mentioned since they're not cloud services, but I think it's worth talking about. I'm just using ONLYOFFICE and syncing everything with Filen.io and Syncthing.
Re: OnlyOffice - It's a Russian product with a Russian version named after the first nuclear ICBM: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39638530
Instead, I'd recommend LibreOffice ~~or CryptPad~~.
Yeah, I've heard of that... Isn't CryptPad just an online wrapper of ONLYOFFICE?
But yeah, thing is LibreOffice is... Worse. I do have it installed though, and I use it occasionally. I'll try and use it more.
Isn't CryptPad just an online wrapper of ONLYOFFICE?
Haven't heard that, nor looked into it, to be honest.
Well, when I open a new document on CryptPad, it opens a web-version of ONLYOFFICE so...
That's disappointing.
I didn't realize until this thread because the only instance I had looked at was https://cryptpad.disroot.org/ , which doesn't seem to have updated to the OnlyOffice version of CryptPad.
Syncthing is great, and if you need 'central' storage that's always on just throw it on a server too.
YUP!!!
Syncthing is so good, I don't know why anyone would pay for cloud storage.
Convenience, I suppose. It's not like Syncthing is hard to setup, but it is harder than the centralized stuff, namely because there's talk of relay and discovery servers... That doesn't really "matter" for a regular user, but normies see funny words and give up.
Isnt proton a trump supporter via donations ?
Here is an analysis: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
TLDR: Proton is a liberal company, donating to many liberal organizations.
Thanks for sharing! I hadnโt come across this article yet.
Aren't there several companies that donate to both running candidates, just in a 'betting on both horses' kind of way? Just making sure you're in good graces with whomever becomes president.
Proton's CEO is definitely a Trump fanboy.
I donโt get the advice for startpage.com? Itโs owned by a US company: https://www.startpage.com/en/about-us/
Good thing the article is hosted on a french server.
I donโt think proton drive is functional enough to replace onedriveโฆ And you can self-host Vaultwarden so is it really a thing to ditch bitwarden? And most importantly Startpageโs result is โsurprisingly accurateโ because they crawl from google results. The author doesnโt even investigate to find this thing
He mentions it in the article.