this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2025
162 points (98.2% liked)

Buy European

10246 readers
640 users here now

Overview:

The community to discuss buying European goods and services.


Matrix Chat of this community


Rules:

  • Be kind to each other, and argue in good faith. No direct insults nor disrespectful and condescending comments.

  • Do not use this community to promote Nationalism/Euronationalism. This community is for discussing European products/services and news related to that. For other topics the following might be of interest:

  • Include a disclaimer at the bottom of the post if you're affiliated with the recommendation.

  • No russian suggestions.

Feddit.uk's instance rules apply:

  • No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia or xenophobia.
  • No incitement of violence or promotion of violent ideologies.
  • No harassment, dogpiling or doxxing of other users.
  • Do not share intentionally false or misleading information.
  • Do not spam or abuse network features.
  • Alt accounts are permitted, but all accounts must list each other in their bios.
  • No generative AI content.

Useful Websites

Benefits of Buying Local:

local investment, job creation, innovation, increased competition, more redundancy.

European Instances

Lemmy:

Friendica:

Matrix:


Related Communities:

Buy Local:

Continents:

European:

Buying and Selling:

Boycott:

Countries:

Companies:

Stop Publisher Kill Switch in Games Practice:


Banner credits: BYTEAlliance


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 28 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[โ€“] rikudou@lemmings.world 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nice, now do AWS. That thing's impossible to escape. Well, with effort you could migrate to another American cloud, like Google or Azure (Microsoft).

Hopefully Hetzner will get there one day, but they're really far from being a competition to the 3.

[โ€“] barraformat@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OVHcloud is an option, thatโ€™s what I migrated to.

[โ€“] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just opened the page and there's no deny all button for cookies, not a great start.

Edit: Checked their offering, not even quarter of our needs would be met.

Going away from AWS ranges anywhere from trivial to literally impossible. If you for example only use S3 there are drop in replacements so you basically only have to change one config file once.

But they offer stuff that has no replacements that I just learned of recently. For example did you know IMDb has an API? Well itโ€™s only usable via AWS. I mean yeah it makes sense from a business perspective and itโ€™s a real niche edge case, but if you, like me, wanna access IMDb programmatically, welpโ€ฆ. time to parse HTML like a caveman.

[โ€“] Jomn@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depending on your exact needs, Scaleway can also be an option.

My company doesn't use any American cloud providers.

[โ€“] rikudou@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

Looks interesting! Though it can't really replace all the features of AWS, it definitely looks like one day it could.

[โ€“] gon@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

More and more, I think the best replacement for a cloud drive is just Syncthing.

I went through the list and wrote what I use to replace it.

  • Microsoft Office 365
    -- Mail -> Tuta
    -- Calendar -> I don't use a calendar, but Tuta would be my option
    -- OneDrive -> I still use OneDrive, but I'm also using Filen.io and Syncthing
    -- Documents* -> ONLYOFFICE (Documents)
  • Bitwarden -> KeePassXC and Keepass2Android
  • GitHub -> I still use GitHub...
  • Google search -> SearXNG with several search engines

*Documents weren't listed or mentioned since they're not cloud services, but I think it's worth talking about. I'm just using ONLYOFFICE and syncing everything with Filen.io and Syncthing.

[โ€“] zonnewin@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Re: OnlyOffice - It's a Russian product with a Russian version named after the first nuclear ICBM: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/39638530

Instead, I'd recommend LibreOffice ~~or CryptPad~~.

[โ€“] gon@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've heard of that... Isn't CryptPad just an online wrapper of ONLYOFFICE?

But yeah, thing is LibreOffice is... Worse. I do have it installed though, and I use it occasionally. I'll try and use it more.

[โ€“] zonnewin@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't CryptPad just an online wrapper of ONLYOFFICE?

Haven't heard that, nor looked into it, to be honest.

[โ€“] gon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, when I open a new document on CryptPad, it opens a web-version of ONLYOFFICE so...

[โ€“] zonnewin@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] klu9@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't realize until this thread because the only instance I had looked at was https://cryptpad.disroot.org/ , which doesn't seem to have updated to the OnlyOffice version of CryptPad.

[โ€“] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Syncthing is great, and if you need 'central' storage that's always on just throw it on a server too.

[โ€“] gon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[โ€“] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Syncthing is so good, I don't know why anyone would pay for cloud storage.

[โ€“] gon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Convenience, I suppose. It's not like Syncthing is hard to setup, but it is harder than the centralized stuff, namely because there's talk of relay and discovery servers... That doesn't really "matter" for a regular user, but normies see funny words and give up.

[โ€“] Aliktren@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isnt proton a trump supporter via donations ?

[โ€“] Jozav@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] Lasagna@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing! I hadnโ€™t come across this article yet.

[โ€“] Propheticus@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Aren't there several companies that donate to both running candidates, just in a 'betting on both horses' kind of way? Just making sure you're in good graces with whomever becomes president.

[โ€“] parlaptie@feddit.org 0 points 1 year ago

Proton's CEO is definitely a Trump fanboy.

[โ€“] pannenkoek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I donโ€™t get the advice for startpage.com? Itโ€™s owned by a US company: https://www.startpage.com/en/about-us/

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Good thing the article is hosted on a french server.

[โ€“] yuki@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I donโ€™t think proton drive is functional enough to replace onedriveโ€ฆ And you can self-host Vaultwarden so is it really a thing to ditch bitwarden? And most importantly Startpageโ€™s result is โ€œsurprisingly accurateโ€ because they crawl from google results. The author doesnโ€™t even investigate to find this thing

[โ€“] apv0@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He mentions it in the article.