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In a now-deleted post on Telegram, a hacking group called Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility for the attack.

Do you think it really was a group in Ukraine, or do you reckon that's bullshit?

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[–] circledot@feddit.org 160 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd say he is making up a reason to turn off Starlink for Ukraine.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Poland was paying for it and they openly said Musk actions mean they need to find a replacement

He's going to "shut it off" when they cancel the contract.

Full on:

You can't fire me, I quit!

[–] kiku@feddit.org 6 points 1 year ago

I agree. The thing is also that Ukraine has absolutely no motive to carry out a DDOS of Twitter.

What would the positive outcome even be? Piss off the leader of the country that your asking for money/weapons?

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The first "D" in "DDOS" stands for "distributed", i.e. it's coming from many places at once. Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

[–] painfulasterisk1@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's a propagandist piece of hairy shit

[–] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Actually not that hairy, you see the shirtless pic? He’s quite smooth, like a beluga whale.

[–] ka1ikasan@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

This. And distribution is not even an option: such servers block IP addresses that send suspicious amounts of data anyways so the DDoS request must be distributed.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Distributed just means "multiple sources" not "multiple countries".

[–] draughtcyclist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct - but having seen them in action, well planned ones are executed from multiple countries at once so they can't just be geoip blocked.

My money is on Elon not understanding how it works, lying, or both. Much more history of that happening than the other.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I agree, to me this feels like a red herring

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.

Fairly certain that there is enough evidence to support that he is both.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn't believe a word out of this known liars mouth without evidence. It makes little sense for Ukraine to bite the hand that feeds them, so to say. It could very easily be Russia trying to frame them. Evidence is necessary!

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would one find evidence if the user utilized a VPN?

[–] ivn@jlai.lu 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't DDOS through a VPN. The first D is for distributed, you do it from a multitude of devices, often hacked ones from a botnet. So DDOS attribution is hard. And if you want some scale you reflect the attack on some other machine that runs a service that allow for amplification, making attribution even harder.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What would be hilarious is if they used starlink to ddos twitter, and that's why it looks like Ukraine

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Using basically any VPN that allows server selection or tor would allow anyone to look like their IP was from Ukraine.

Hi guys, I'm from Ukraine!

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Article says it’s a DoS but probably means DDoS because nobody does just a vanilla DoS anymore (they’re easy to block). No VPN is going to let you use their service to do a DDoS, setting aside the technical and logistical problems for attempting it, it doesn’t really do anything useful for a DDoS.

DDoS attacks aren’t possible to IP trace, they come from a wide range of compromised devices forming a bot net that runs on IP blocks spanning multiple different areas all over the world, making them impossible to distinguish from legitimate traffic. The only way to catch who is responsible for a DDoS is to find the botnet’s control surface (usually something like an IRC channel) and gain access to it yourself. Not likely unless you find the malware that created the bot net and pull it apart looking for a reference to the control system.

TL;DR: Elon musk is full of shit there’s no fucking way he knows where this attack originated from based on IP addresses because it probably didn’t use one easily blockable and identifiable IP range.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

That’s exactly what someone who was from Ukraine trying to look like they were from Ukraine would say.

/s

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Wouldn’t it make sense if it was a Russian group posing as being in Ukraine, to further divide the US and Russia? I mean the Russian ministry of truth is already hammering hard at that bond. How stupid can one be not to see that?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would make more sense than that Ukrainians did it.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah. Russia has been running circles around America in the information war. In Clarissa ward’s on all fronts, she talks about investigating Russian troll farms in Uganda that specifically targeted African Americans and stoked things like the BLM movement, etc. there is a reason why America is so divided. It’s why Europeans have started shutting off these things during elections, etc

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why do you write nah, and then come with an example that confirms how Russians do this routinely?

Is there something ambiguous about my comment? That state it makes more sense that it's the Russians.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably skimmed fast and missed the "than". Probably.

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[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's the "than that" is a little more complex of a construction that can be read over, and possibly missed. The sentence can be read with either of those missing, but if the "than" is missed it completely changes the meaning.

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[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] peyotecosmico@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The more I read about him the more I think he has no clue about tech.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If you've ever heard him speak about your field of expertise then you'll know that he is 100% full of shit and bluffs his way through conversations.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Yay, and another one, welcome!

Musk doesn't have a clue about anything technology. He claims to be worlds best engineer, but if you listen to him actually talk engineering since over a decade ago, it's all vapid stupidity after stupidity

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago

It could also be China. It could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.

Nevermind the group who took credit, he's trying to drum up excuses to shut off Starlink in Ukraine.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“It’s what anyone else would do.”

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

at this point, why believe someone who can't differentiate 8 billion from 8 million?

reading numbers is not his strong suit.

You see, Elon has so much money, that he never sees his wealth in the full format because it the number would be so fucking long, so it's always abbreviated like 8,000,000K

Easy mistake, you're just not rich enough!

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Hello I’m a Ukrainian hacker capable of brining down Twitter, but don’t have a clue how to use a VPN to obscure my originating IP address.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

He's such a fucking idiot. Has he absolutely no idea how these attacks work? They are routed around the world many times before the final attack vector.

Jesus Christ, he's such a fucking fraud.

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