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[–] codalafin@pawb.social 170 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good. Preordering games is the dumbest fucking concept. People need to stop doing this.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago

But what if they run out of digital copies?

[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

But what if they offer a limited edition Gandhi skin

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 112 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I will potentially not buy it then.

How many times do we have to teach these companies this lesson? Anti-piracy DRM never stops pirates, it only causes harm to legitimate paying customers. Pirates get the objective better experience playing a game with DRM removed because they not only get the game for free, but it performs better than the version people pay for. Why pay money for something that is objectively worse than getting it for free?

[–] moody@lemmings.world 71 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Nobody's teaching these companies any lessons. They keep using Denuvo because it works, and the games keep selling because the number of people actually bothered by it is pretty small.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Source needed for it actually working to reduce piracy. It's possible, but I'm gonna need sources since we know from history that simply providing a better product does more to increase sales and reduce piracy than anything else. People are willing to pay when they get their money's worth. The ones that don't, weren't going to pay anyway, so there's no actual lost sale.

It just makes the bean counters feel better and help justify their position.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 years ago

It's not really clear if working DRM increases sales. But most Denuvo games don't get cracked, so it definetly prevents most piracy.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. Most people have no spine, or even care about it. Whatever, I can waste my time and money on other games. It's not like there's a lack of them out there, even outside of Denuvo, EA & Ubisoft.

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[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (22 children)

i mean civ is never really worth buying until they put out a complete edition with all the features they removed so they could slowly sell them back to you as dlc.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago
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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 87 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there it vanishes from my Wishlist. Thought after Civ 5 it might be actually something potentially worth buying, but nope. Removing the Launchers just to add Denuvo... What an absolute dumbass move.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm gonna wait for the platinum ultimate mega collector's anthology edition at a 90% discount after 7 years.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm still only on turn 270 in my first Civ3 game, don't have time for a newer version, Ghandi's bombers have almost all finished moving this month.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 55 points 2 years ago (9 children)

That's one way to get people to turn to piracy.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago

Oh. Well I was excited about Civ 7 right until this moment.

Anti-tamper = no mods worth your time = only worth playing a handful of times. Also may have trouble working on Linux.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago

Guess that's gonna be the first Civ game I'm not buying.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope. If it does, I'm not buying it.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Denuvo?

More like De-not-gonna... ah fuck that was terrible, please ignore

[–] Flyswat@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure you meant De-no-go. It's alright

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[–] tiny_parking@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the excitement I had has gone. Removed from wish list and added to ignore list.

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I guess I'll keep playing Civ 5, then?

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Unciv is an open source version of Civ V that works on Android and PC, if you really want to lose some hours

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now we can all build cities at 15 fps!

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

How now, not everyone can afford a top of the line rig for those kinds of frame rate.

[–] hakase@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There hasn't been a need for a new Civ since IV so I already wasn't gonna buy it, but now I'm gonna not buy it even harder.

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 18 points 2 years ago
[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Ha ha ha...no

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

On one hand, the gameplay doesn't usually change so drastically that a new version matters too much.

On the other, if they did dramatically change up the gameplay it might suck.

So even though they have a decent track record and I love Civilization, I would never pre-order or buy day 1. I'll wait and see if it's actually worth getting. I will also say, in my experience, like 90% of games that used Denovu have not been good in the first place. I can name only 1 I thought was worth its cost, and I only got it after they removed the DRM (Lies of P).

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Civ 7: "No more turns" living up to the name

[–] Longpork3@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago

Guess I'll wait for a nice drm-free cracked version rather than buying it.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 6 points 2 years ago
[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Thats fine, after 6, didn't have much hype for the series left, guess this makes it easier to not buy.

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