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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by qaz@lemmy.world to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
 

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There might be some changes that could improve it further:

  • ~~Remove Brave~~
  • ~~Maybe add Signal; It's easier than Element, but it's also centralized~~
  • Stop suggesting Linux Mint specifically
  • Recommend Hosted Nextcloud
  • ~~Add GrapheneOS~~
  • Maybe add Delta chat
  • ~~Maybe remove Bluesky~~
  • ~~Remove Stremio and add Jellfyin (even though it's selfhosted and not a direct equivalent)~~
  • ~~Add ente because Immich is selfhosted~~
  • ~~Add aurora~~
  • ~~Add SearxNG~~
  • Add SimpleX
  • Add lichess
  • Add pCloud

Any other suggestions?

Temporary improved version:

From To Compromise
X, Threads Mastodon Bluesky
Instagram Pixelfed
YouTube PeerTube ReVanced (just blocks adds)
Reddit Lemmy
Netlix, Disney+ ๐Ÿ”จ Jellyfin
Google Meet, Zoom Jitsi Meet
Google Docs Etherpad
Google Search ๐Ÿ”จ SearxNG Kagi, Ecosia
Google Drive Nextcloud pCloud, filen, Proton Drive
Google Photos, iCloud Immich Ente
Google Chrome Librewolf, Firefox Ungoogled-chromium
All messaging apps Element (matrix) Signal
Google Home, Amazon Alexa Home Assistant
Play Store F-droid, Aurora
Google Android, iOS LineageOS, GrapheneOS
Windows, MacOS Linux Mint

๐Ÿ”จ = Self-Hosted only (requires running a server)

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[โ€“] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I see that this is focused on foss alternatives streaming wise I would suggest mubi and your local library which often include streaming services. At least here in Germany.

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[โ€“] BrownOtter@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

pCloud and pCloud pass to replace Dropbox and 1Password respectivelyโ€ฆ They also offer a lifetime paymeny option, less subscriptions!

[โ€“] Herring@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I use Nextcloud as a similar way as Google Drive or Google Photos. But it's self-hosted and not for the mass.

I would recommend a mail service for drive. Most are quite stingy with storage. Mailbox.org or Infomaniak.

[โ€“] LepaVida@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I want to see Koofr up there among the clouds.

[โ€“] sevenOfKnives@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

signal is a good option for messaging. it is technically american, but i feel like FOSS projects should generally get a pass.

also, as an american who is very not okay with what our (russia's) government (puppet) is doing, wouldn't supporting non-american businesses mean paying the tariffs and supporting the oligarchs? i'm not really sure what us yanks can do besides just trying not to spend ANY money.

[โ€“] amzd@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Signal is extremely expensive, they pay $15m+ to Google and Amazon because they donโ€™t self-host so around half of their donations go directly to tech oligarchy

[โ€“] Serinus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what us yanks can do besides just trying not to spend ANY money.

That's about to get a lot easier. How do you feel about a $3000 laptop? Car manufacturing might just stop temporarily. They've got a month to figure out how to change pretty major processes that companies may not have the current ability to change.

And let's see if they're going to move into the US or out.

[โ€“] rowanthorpe@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

In the context of the parallels now being drawn between post-WW1 Germany's slide to WW2 and present-day USA's situation, I worry that the major quality-of-life hit starting to happen in the US might be at least slightly on purpose.

Aside from the "Krasnov" explanation for such intention (which seems compelling but I haven't yet seen enough evidence to have a strong opinion either way about), another perhaps simpler explanation (either instead of or in addition to that) could be that he is gambling that the same poor, disempowered, uneducated subset of people in the US who end up being easily stirred into a military mindset fever are the same ones who will easily forget that the leader promising them their "national pride and identity" back is the same one whose decisions accelerated that very descent into poverty, disempowerment, and poor education (& undermined press) in order to create that pliable situation.

I vividly remember in history class seeing the photos from the post-Versailles-treaty period, of German kids flying kites made of nearly worthless Deutchmarks, and people with wheelbarrows full of notes paying for bread. Hitler was able to so easily stir up people "with no hope or dignity left" by promising prosperity based on building autobahns, factories, etc - manipulating their despair to hijack rational or compassionate thought. Anyone informed and principled enough to see through that slide to madness and act accordingly ended up running for their lives (along with the many others who had to run just for being born a certain way). It looks a bit like the situation in the US is on the precipice of sliding that way, with the compounding factor that online click-hungry faux-press and automated disinformation/propaganda bots on social networks are able to very quickly create and maintain cult-like bubbles in which a "leader" can manufacture shadows and "instruct" followers to jump at those shadows in the same breath, under the assumption that enough people will be gullible and/or lazy enough to fall for it unquestioningly.

I really think the people in the US who are not part of that subset need to be very proactive (in real-life terms, not just rage-scrolling & rage-clicking) in being the bulwark against that slide to madness, and right now - starting to react months from now might already be too late to avoid dangerous global conflicts escalating, and new ones starting. I am very wary of doom-and-gloom hyperbole, and aware that overstating things can risk fostering apathy instead of overcoming it, but I think this is one of those rare historic moments when such statements are not hyperbole.

[โ€“] tawaken@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't show in this list, but I recently found Odysee. Can it be also an alternative to YouTube?

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[โ€“] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Firefox is not European

[โ€“] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Where Google maps?

[โ€“] papayas@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Mojeek for search

[โ€“] Awebo@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I donโ€™t think BlueSky is a great alternative, itโ€™s still American and also still pretty big tech

[โ€“] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

But it needs to stay. Mastodon is better, but Bluesky has momentum, and anything to get people off Twitter.

Mastodon is still there, and first.

[โ€“] Yuriq@feddit.rocks 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeet Brave & element. add jabber and irc. Swap mint 4 fedora atomic.

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[โ€“] menas@lemmy.wtf 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fun that Element is on the list, while there is a 3rd bill attempt in a year to forbid or bypass encryption in instant messaging. Europe maybe not as fascist as US or Russia, it's still is a shitty capitalist and imperialist place.

[โ€“] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yes exactly I'm mostly on-board with this flyer, I particularly like that tagline. But the inclusion of the EU flag is just completely bewildering to me, even as an EU resident myself. Are there really people out there who see the EU as some sort of bastion of freedom and justice?! Or is this some noncredibledefense-esque ironic meme that I'm too dumb to understand?

[โ€“] papayas@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Signal and US based non profits are not ok. their gov can still access data and chatgpt used to be non profit now majorly owned by Microsoft and privately. Just find full European alternatives

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[โ€“] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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