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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Wayland is pretty darn great nowadays, hell I'm running KDE and got HDR on my desktop; haven't had any odd goings on since 2023 (though nvidia is still meh)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    When isn't nvidia meh?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    They are called compositors, but they are not as good as X WMs IMO. I'm keeping an eye on them tho.

    It still bothers me how toxic the hyprland devs behaved last year. Keeping an eye on that too πŸ˜‰

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    While hyprland is really nice, it is made by a transphobe and a large part of the community is also. Switch to something else there are a lot of good alternatives. Kind of a protest against him.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Pretty sure the lead lemmy dev has said some transphobic things as well. They're a major tankie at least.

    Thanks for the heads up, but I'm browsing lemmy on a device that is produced at least in part by slave labor somewhere along the logistics chain. At some point I think you just have to disengage from developer drama.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Using hyprland in no way benefits the developer to be clear, I would just not donate, beyond that it really doesn't matter

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I disagree. Open source thrives on attention. Install count is like their cocaine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Shit take.

    Disregarding projects or ideas due to unrelated issues is just stupid.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    […] [Hyprland] is made by a transphobe and a large part of the community is also […]

    Do you have a source?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Get the fuck out of here centrist

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Look at their comments. Its always do you have a source, can you explain, etc, never adding to the discussion. Classical centrist arguments and im gonna die on this hill.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    How is knowing a context a centrist argument? People want to understand.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Having to support your argument with facts and reasoning is a well known leftist plot to undermine my feeling-based reality.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

    If dmenu was made by a nazi I wouldn't give a shit because its just dmenu but hyprland is so clearly made by a pack of /g/ zoomers who want their desktops to look like 1337 haXors without any access to the low level systems. Its all discord script kiddie hype-beasts.

    Its a tiling window manager made by people who never used a tiling window manager on X11. I know I'm sounding like an elitist boomer but this shit really violates some core Unix principals of making small composable utilities that empower the user. RiverWM or Sway keep to this philosophy.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Wayland? Does it have colors, window position memory or hotkeys yet? Or are they still in the "we only sell an idea, you do all the work" vaporware phase?

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    People down vote but push-to-talk doesn't work on pure Wayland

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

    Wayland has a notable piece of "but Elon can do no wrong!" cult thing going for it.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    too bad the guy behind hyprland is a shitty little nazi twerp

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    What? How is software transphobic

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Because people are still Reddit-brained, have no capacity for nuance and thrive on outrage like an addict.

    For the addicts with their finger smashing the downvote button:

    Elon Musk is an idiot. But that doesn't mean that a Tesla Model S is an idiot.

    A Hyprland developer could be transphobic, members who comment in the community could be transphobic but that doesn't make the software transphobic.

    Software doesn't have political opinions.


    If you want to not be hypocritical and examine all products with the same ridiculous level of scrutiny then you're probably using electronic components in your house, car, smartphone and PC that were sourced using slave labor, child labor or built by countries that engage in human rights abuse.

    The electricity used to allow you to uncritically attack people online was generated by means which contribute to climate change which will kill or displace hundreds of millions of people.

    The language you're using is primarily used by cultures who have historically engaged in colonialism, piracy, slavery, religious oppression, ethnic cleansing and wars of aggression.

    So, unless you're willing to sit in a forest and never communicate with another person, you're going to be using technology which, if you pedantically dig deep enough, you can find some "problematic" behaviors associated with.

    Or, you could not act ignorant in online spaces. That's also an option.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    How is a tiling wm transphobic? Seriously get a life.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Obviously they meant the community.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I don't agree to that either

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    I don't think it's community is transphobic

    Edit: 0 proof, 100% delusion. Checks out.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    the part where the community has been actively hostile to trans folks doesn't make 'em transphobic?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    You gonna provide a source? It's been a couple days now.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Google it. I'm not the entertainment

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I googled this for you. You are not entertaining, I agree. Just another bandwagoner. More reading and less typing next time πŸ‘.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    issue is, so many things have been called transphobic, from mere personal opinions to accidents to actual transphobia, i just can't trust a blanket "foo is transphobic" comment.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

    Sounds and smells like actual bullshit to me

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)
    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Drew Devault has a history of trying to sabotage FOSS communities, just saying

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Who is joining communities for window managers?