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Donald Trump plans to take control of the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) by firing its governing board and placing it under the Commerce Department, led by Secretary Howard Lutnick.

Experts warn the move likely violates federal law, as USPS was established as an independent entity under the 1970 Postal Reorganization Act.

The Postal Board, in an emergency meeting, has hired legal counsel and gave instructions to sue the White House if the president removed board members or altered the agency’s independent status.

Trump has long criticized the USPS and has floated privatization, sparking backlash over concerns of political interference and mail disruptions.

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[–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 103 points 1 year ago

The USPS has hundreds of billions worth of prime real estate that trump wants to steal

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 94 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, mail was nice while it lasted.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not just mail.

Most (all?) of the package delivery services rely heavily on USPS for last mile deliveries. So expect UPS and Amazon to be sending people to the golf course to scream at fuckface

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don't give a fuck about the last mile deliveries. Without USPS keeping prices low, they will be able to rank up what they charge. It's a dream for them.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 year ago

Last mile is what let's them sell. If people can't buy online they go back to brick and mortar and start questioning if that shoe horn is really worth a twenty minutes drive.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazon needs shipping prices to stay low. If they go up, Amazon either needs to reduce their margins to pay for it or they will be less competitive against physical shops. Either way their profits will take a hit.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They might be counting on it pushing more people to subscribe to Prime to keep cheaper shipping. They have their own distribution system so they can do the last mile if they want.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Assuming the market can bear it, that is. And goods are expensive enough as it is, even without import tariffs.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

amazon is drooling at the opportunity to privatise all of american mail

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There isn't money in physical mail and cranking that up will just push people even farther into digital correspondence.

Amazon has spent years (well over a decade now?) trying to cut out the USPS. The reality is that they can't. Their gig delivery driver model works for some regions but not for "rural america". And there is a lot of money in being the only lifeline many households have while being able to offload the high cost low frequency deliveries to a different company (USPS).

Five or ten years ago? Yeah, amazon wanted that. Now? It is actively not in their interest and would hurt their business model for the USPS to die.

Destroying the USPS has almost nothing to do with "good business" or even privatizing it. It is all about controlling information. It kills vote by mail almost instantly but it also removes the ability for informational mailers to be sent out. And an isolated populace is a stupid populace and a stupid populace is a republican populace.

Its the same reason social media was so compromised. Because then all the useful idiots tell people to "just unplug and enjoy your day to day life" and then they never hear about protests or human rights violations or...

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

amazon does a lot of their own now. even to my little shit town. nearest fulfillment center is in another state, 2 1/2 hrs away.

[–] skip0110@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

They are terrible at it, compared to my mailman or UPS.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not with UPS anymore. That agreement ended recently.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Don't worry! You'll be able to subscribe to our affordable mail services subscription service starting as low as 100$ per yr. Terms and conditions apply.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reminder that the Post Office is only losing money because of a 2006 law that forces them to fund their retirement plan for 75 years in advance, which is an insane burden that no nother agency or private corporation undertakes. Also, even if it does lose money, it doesn't matter because the USPS isn't a business. It's a government service provided for the public good.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a 2006 law that forces them to fund their retirement plan for 75 years in advance

Congress actually fixed this a couple years ago: https://apwu.org/postal-service-reform-act-2022

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

That's true, and I did forget about that, but that also doesn't undo the 16 years of cutbacks they had to make to try to meet that target. It's also unclear to what happens to the money ($56 out of $72 billion, I think) they had already saved in retirement, but if I member right, they got about $50 billion in debt relief, so I guess that about balances out.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Also, even if it does lose money, it doesn’t matter because the USPS isn’t a business. It’s a government service provided for the public good.

All good points, but this is the most important one. We need to stop accepting the bullshit framing of the extremist radical right wing that sees everything as a business.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

How long until "un-patriotic" mail from progressive institutions is no longer delivered? Democratic mail in ballots? Oopsies, right in the trash.

[–] miseducator@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Biden after hearing this news:

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fire 200,000 federal workers.

Destroy tge USPS, obliterating snall businesses.

They really are doing everything they can to get labor costs down. This tight labor market these last few years must have been driving the upper class insane.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago

That makes me wonder about Amtrak.

Hmm.

  • The Project 2025 stuff seems to mostly align with what's on the Heritage Foundation website. Looking at said website, they are not happy about Amtrak.

  • Apparently Trump tried eliminating federal subsidies for long-distance Amtrak routes at the start of his first term and failed.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago

Nice! Now my mailbox won't be flooded with those pesky medical bills!

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just wait until the USPS is gone and all federal/tax docs have to be mailed via UPS or FedEx. You think it costs a lot to run the USPS? Just wait until a Duopoly can charge whatever they want. All the fuckers that voted for this are going to find out.

There is a reason only USPS delivers in rural America and the private companies use them for last mile delivery.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 points 1 year ago

Take control= scuttling isn't it?

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Way to go DeJoy. Nice work you absolute twat waffle.

[–] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I'm guessing he didn't get a Valentine's Day Card from Musk, he blamed it being 'lost in the post' (even through he didn't send one because the love is all one-sided in that relationship) and The Grand High Orange One is destroying the post office out of spite.

[–] Cat@ponder.cat 3 points 1 year ago

Downvoted, because fuck Jeff Bezos.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly given how USPS is largely independent and even has their own form of law enforcement I suspect they may actually have thr resources required to outright oppose Trump. Also if Musk tries to just walk in and break shit they have the opportunity to do the funniest thing possible.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine the USPIS arresting Musk and Trump. Maybe the postal cops can do what should have been done years ago.

I was thinking smashing Musks skull open on the concrete and pistol whipping him if he says anything stupid or until he stops twitching.