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Trump pushes death penalty for undocumented people in capital cases. (prismreports.org)
submitted 1 year ago by Cat@ponder.cat to c/news@lemmy.world
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President Donald Trump is calling for federal prosecutors to push for the death penalty in capital cases involving undocumented people. The move was one of dozens of executive orders the president signed on day one of his second term.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn't? It's the same crime. What possible argument is there for this except "It's cheaper just to kill them, and we don't give a fuck"? Effectively it's execution for not having your papers in order.

Also, won't this be used as the start of an excuse to kill whichever undocumented person they round up? And then to kill them in bulk, and then to kill the other people they decide to round up? There's no reason whatsoever to trust this administration. They don't believe in justice or laws.

The USA needs to find a way to get rid of these Nazis fast, or it'll be too late to mount any effective resistance.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not cheaper to execute people, either. Even if convicted, they still get their appeals, which costs court and lawyer time and money, plus the imprisonment. Even if they exhaust their appeals, they sit on death row until the state actually manages to execute them, which is getting more difficult due to lack of executioners and method of execution materials (e.g. the lethal injection items).

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not cheaper to execute people with our current legal framework. After we get 30,000 people in Guantanamo bay and illegal immigration has become a crime punishable by death, things could change.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They only started killing them in the 40s because they ran out of room. It's the logical, horrific conclusion to permanent detention of millions of people.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think they want to fast track it. These are the people who masturbate over their piles of firearms hoping someone breaks into their house so they can legally murder someone.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Ha, due process? Unlikely

[–] 9blb@feddit.org 10 points 1 year ago

Why should undocumented people die for a crime while documented people shouldn't?

There was some sort of Republican conference a couple weeks ago where he talked about how people where raping grandmas and pushing other people in front of subways. He explicitly stated, that he wanted the death penalty for not only immigrants, but also American citizens doing said crimes. But there were some "legal hurdles" to solve first.

In other words: He'll try and build extermination camps.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

It's not about justice. It's about finding an excuse to murder brown people.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can think of one felon who could stand to undergo a little death penalty

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago

In the past, treason used to be punished by death. Nowadays it's rewarded with a seat in the oval office.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a little death penalty. As a treat, for the American people.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 1 year ago

We've had first death penalty yes, but what about second?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sure, because Biden reduced all but three federal death penalty cases. Trump needs more people to victimize.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The only people who should suffer from the death penalty are the ones advocating for it.

And no, that wasn't a paradoxical statement.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg#%3A%7E%3Atext=Julius+Rosenberg+%28May+12%2C+1918%2Cto+be+executed+during+peacetime.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's go on record defending murderers and rapists instead of focusing on citizen children being deported.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

If you're talking about this comment thread, people are defending equality before the law and due process, not defending rapists and murderers.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I suggest we invite trump out for a field day with an interactive exhibition on death penalty. And to honour the great Queen Trump, we'll give her the honours of trying it out first!