Sending someone from a functional state to Texas should be barred under the 8th amendment.
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2025
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The Trump administration has vowed to conduct mass deportations, starting with immigrants charged with crimes. But Amaral is an example of ICE apparently targeting non-criminals as well.
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By ICE they mean the Gestapo.
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Okay, before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not defending this. It's awful and shouldn't happen.
That being said, reading the headline, I first got the impression that this was a case of them arresting and transporting a citizen. People should make sure to read the article.
Yeah, I mean it's a tough spot. Neither party has done much to reform the system for legal immigration. That means we have plenty of illegal immigrants that are meaningful contributors to our society. But technically they are still illegal. So the poloticians of the past left the door open for what trump is doing. Trump is to blame for doing it, but the rest are to blame for leaving things in such a vulnerable state.
The article literally says people like him didn't go unpunished in the past, they just get released on bond rather than taken away from their family and imprisoned.
Because all he did was overstay a tourist visa.
Not sure if you are agreeing, disagreeing, or just making a disconnected comment.
Disagreeing since you seem to think that this was in any way something done with precedent. This is entirely unprecedented.
Hm, I did not mean to imply this specific thing was done with precedent. I did mean to draw attention to the people who let this happen by leaving so many loopholes for trump to take advantage of. Leaving loopholes seems to be standard practice. Like tax law, lots of loopholes for the wealthy.
The amount of time i spent trying to figure out what mass was...
Force divided by acceleration
Why the hell did both of us get downvoted?
Because you’re both off topic perhaps?
From context it’s pretty clear to most people that they’re talking about a man from Massachusetts getting detained and taken to Texas.
Yes but when i read it the first rime i got stuck at mass. and thought the dot was the end of a sentence and spent a bunch of time trying to figure it out. Its not that off topic forums are meant to discuss stuff. Idk why everyone acts like robots.
Assholes abound
Man, thats heartbreaking. I get it. He broke the law, but the bond system is there for exactly these types of cases. Instead, they’ll count this hard working family man in the number of “criminals” they’ve expelled from the country.
He did not break the law. That's why there's an article about him.
Entered the country legally and had current paperwork.
But the racists at ICE don't care. They see brown and freak the duck out.
Except the article says that his visa was expired. So on the most stupid of technical levels, he broke the law because he overstayed on an expired visa. Something that deserves an annoyed "You should've renewed this earlier," and that's it, but enough of a technicality for the racists to legally ruin his life.
How do you know he broke the law exactly?
I get it. He broke the law,
No he didn't. He overstayed his visa. Some might think that's pedantic, but I believe it's an important distinction
But overstaying the visa is breaking the law.
Why is the default position assuming this person is a menace enough to spend resources seeking out and removing? The studies I've seen say immigrants use fewer resources and provide more, but this narrative gets spread around that they're just a bunch of leeches that deserve to be punished at great expense.
That's not justice. That's blindly following a law because you don't know how to think or empathize.
That's not at all what they're saying. I don't know how so many people didn't get this, but what they're saying is, "Technically, he did break the law, but only at the most bureaucratic level that deserves basically a guy at the DMV shaking their finger sternly at you, and they'll use this technicality to pump up their figures of how many 'criminals' they've arrested and send this guy who did nothing wrong to gods' know where and ruin his life."
They literally called him a hard-working family man.
Yes. But, again, I think it's important to make the distinction. Overstaying a valid visa is like the bottom tier of migrant "crimes" we should give a shit about.
This person had two options: get kicked out when the visa expired, or, overstay the visa and get kicked out if/when caught.
We're not talking about a violent criminal here.
We get your message, but you eplicitly said he didn't break the law, while he clearly did.
That doesn't mean people agree with him being detained by ICE, but he clearly broke the law, and for some reason you were like "no he didn't".
He did, why were you lying about that??
Yeah dude I lied and then immediately told on myself. Because... Reasons? You're just looking for shit to be mad about.
The implication was violent crime and you know it. I don't see overstaying a visa to be a crime. Get mad.
So do you now acknowledge you're lying, or are you defending what you said, because it's sounds like you're trying to go both ways at the same time.
However, it's very Trumpian of you to be like "it's only illegal if i think it's illegal". Alas, that's not how the world and truth works... even if the big boss is making it seem that way.
On the same level as speeding. I assume you don't want everyone who gets caught speeding arrested.