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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But overstaying the visa is breaking the law.

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why is the default position assuming this person is a menace enough to spend resources seeking out and removing? The studies I've seen say immigrants use fewer resources and provide more, but this narrative gets spread around that they're just a bunch of leeches that deserve to be punished at great expense.

That's not justice. That's blindly following a law because you don't know how to think or empathize.

That's not at all what they're saying. I don't know how so many people didn't get this, but what they're saying is, "Technically, he did break the law, but only at the most bureaucratic level that deserves basically a guy at the DMV shaking their finger sternly at you, and they'll use this technicality to pump up their figures of how many 'criminals' they've arrested and send this guy who did nothing wrong to gods' know where and ruin his life."

They literally called him a hard-working family man.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes. But, again, I think it's important to make the distinction. Overstaying a valid visa is like the bottom tier of migrant "crimes" we should give a shit about.

This person had two options: get kicked out when the visa expired, or, overstay the visa and get kicked out if/when caught.

We're not talking about a violent criminal here.

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We get your message, but you eplicitly said he didn't break the law, while he clearly did.

That doesn't mean people agree with him being detained by ICE, but he clearly broke the law, and for some reason you were like "no he didn't".

He did, why were you lying about that??

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah dude I lied and then immediately told on myself. Because... Reasons? You're just looking for shit to be mad about.

The implication was violent crime and you know it. I don't see overstaying a visa to be a crime. Get mad.

[–] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

So do you now acknowledge you're lying, or are you defending what you said, because it's sounds like you're trying to go both ways at the same time.

However, it's very Trumpian of you to be like "it's only illegal if i think it's illegal". Alas, that's not how the world and truth works... even if the big boss is making it seem that way.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

On the same level as speeding. I assume you don't want everyone who gets caught speeding arrested.