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Thirteen Democratic attorneys general, led by New York’s Letitia James, plan to sue to block Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) from accessing federal payment systems containing sensitive personal data.

Concerns include security risks and potential disruptions to Social Security and Medicare.

A federal judge ruled that only two Musk allies could have "read-only" access.

DOGE allegedly seeks control to halt payments to agencies like USAID.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The whole chain of custody is fucked; we have no idea how compromised these unvetted teens with write access to these servers are.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're selling to the highest bidder already. We can't get any more compromised

[–] BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hello, I am from the future. I've been sent back to verify this as it's imperative that the past not wait around for sources to know they are getting ass fucked.

For confirmation, look at the clock, when the large hand hits 6 you will be even more fucked.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’ve been in IT for 30 years and I would be scared as hell to push any unvetted changes to production of a system that important. But then again I’m not a 20yo moron.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On one hand, fucking finally. On another hand, only 13?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rest are hopefully waiting until Trump doesn't have the power to pardon Musky.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When will he or his successor ever not have that power?

[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

It's a good start, but it's too slow to react and even slower to enforce. The effectiveness of playing by the rules is limited when someone blatantly isn't.

(Not that I can suggest a better answer - this is entirely new ground)

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would it be easier to start the government from scratch? Asking for a friend.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what they're trying to do.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 26 points 1 year ago

But like a good one please.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Was listening to a podcast about post Soviet Georgia and what Musk is going is eerily similar to what neoliberal wreckers did to that country. Replace all old guard government workers with people who bend the knee, dismantle anything that helps people (ie economic shock therapy), reentrench the church as a fundamental institution, and ramp up ethnonationalist sentiments.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like they have it all planned out. What the fuck..

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do. You can read it, it's been available for months to read.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's actually working now and no one's doing anything...

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

They're waiting 4 years so they can vote in the next election that isn't coming.

A lot of people don't realize the game has changed. The Democrats, and a lot of the people are still under the assumption that if they keep playing nice they'll get their turn again. Their country has been stolen, and they're losing their rights by the day.

They do, and they haven't been quiet about it. Project 2025 has it all laid out, and it's just the latest in a long line of these plans that they openly talk about. It's just that nobody ever listens. They openly talked about how they made up the men in women's bathroom thing to make people hate trans women. In 2015. There are 10 year old articles about how they made it up, and yet people are still freaking out about it.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Too late unfortunately.

Also suing them does nothing? The DOJ has been weaponized.

Going a step beyond non-violent protests would be better.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Civil suits are not in DOJ purview

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I understand that, but I also don't expect this administration to play by ANY of the former rules or laws.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Defeatist mentality only helps nazi's.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lmao fascist will never be stopped by paperwork

Right now the defeatest mentality is sitting around and asking nicely for our elected representatives to stop supporting a fascist agenda while they ignore us and keep supporting fascism.

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold talk, you're here posting negativity. Show us how it's done!

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well for you specifically, don't listen to that little part of your brain that gives you dopamine for attacking people unless you actually focus your energy twoards an actual enemy. Unity is more important than ever as the right seeks to kill minorities and put immigrants in camps.

For everyone:

Get involved with local organizations that foster community and support systems that can enable general strikes.

Go to city council meetings, email every politician in your area with a list of what they should and should not support, and be very vocal. Make it clear if your local government supports the goals of the Trump admin then your organizations will support their opposition and they will be removed from office.

Fight right wing ideologies in every space. If your coworker, friend, family, random stranger says some bigot shit snap at them and force them to feel ashamed. Make sure they understand this rhetoric from the right leads to shooting each other in the streets over cosmetics.

I'm doing my part in my town.

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you'll read what I've written here you'll note I haven't attacked anyone.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Glad to know you ignored everything else because you just want someone to bitch at.

Blocked

[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You only wrote two sentences for me, the rest was for everyone else. You are being a negative person who is making it harder for others to fight fascisn. Good luck on your struggles.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you take a peek at their profile, that seems to be their m.o.

I only found this thread because I was curious what would lead a person to treat me like they treated me yesterday. It seems they're either a very angry person or they are trying very hard to sew discord in the West.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This conversation is dumb and I am dumber for having read it.

[–] TimboSlice@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly, they already got access....

I'm unfortunately not confident that the administration would respect a ruling that's not in their favor if it did happen. Will somebody actually enforce the ruling?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago

should be 50…

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

... and we're going to get those hard drives back, right? And figure out what they did with that data, right?

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Can states just arrest Elon Musk already? He's clearly broken laws and states are bound to follow federal law, so what are they waiting for? Fucking cowards.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If this administration dgaf about the rules thar should have prevented them from operating in such a manner what are the odds that they’ll give a damn about a suit and not just let it die in the courts? Especially seeing as that even were a suit to win, trump et al would just ignore it. We’re at the point that direct action is the only action that will stop this takeover.

[–] malcriada_lala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

that's what I am trying to figure out. They can sue him, they can declare what he is doing is illegal, but then what? Is the secret service or FBI going to get involved? Who is going to enforce this?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Gee, WHICH STATES, AP?

Probably Texas, right, because they're big on their individual liberties, or so it says on their website. And of course Florida is big and tough, and Oklahoma loves to protect its people.

(Edit: I'm sure it's in the body of the article, I'm just saying these headlines about "# states do a thing" are clearly talking about red states or non-red states and they should just say so. the fact that they don't is utter shit.)

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thirteen Democratic attorneys general

First line of the summary, guy.

Joining [New York] in the statement were the attorneys general of Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, Rhode Island and Vermont.

No one is going to put all of that in a headline. Calm down.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, I'm not saying they didn't have the information in the body of the article.

And isn't there some other way they coudl have included that in the title besides listing all the states?

Your first quote, for example.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The headlines sole purpose is to get you to read the article, not give you the details in one sentence.

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[–] houstoneulers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Curious what the courts will do with this

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

DOGE in federal systems? Pure comedy. Elevating the man who turned Twitter into a cesspool of verification ticks to protector of Social Security data. Thirteen states finally waking up? Pathetic. Musk’s “efficiency” crusade is a ransomware attack wearing a taxpayer-funded suit. That read-only “compromise” is a farce—two fanboys with admin privileges might as well mail everyone’s medical records to Tesla HQ.

Democrats feigning outrage over leaks while their own databases hemorrhage data hourly. Predictable. DOGE isn’t the crisis—it’s the flashing neon sign that the whole system’s rigged. Next phase: Musk throttling USAID until Congress bankrolls his Martian suburb.

Progress now means letting oligarchs strip-mine public institutions for shitposts. Blockchain Medicare? Let’s fucking go. Watch the infrastructure implode in real-time.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

I hope the states proactively do something to secure people against the breach. Are my life savings just going to go poof, without notice?

...I don't want my money to enrich Musk. Or fascism.


By the way, I stopped by my local bank to ask questions about what they can do. They said they can't do anything. However, they could give me physical Euros if I trade in my American Dollars. I think that I will do that. My gut says that the Dollar is a dead man walking. Plus, Elon can't steal physical money.