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Watched Louis Rossman today, and he's part of the team behind a new app for watching online video content - not just youtube, but nebula, peertube, twitch and more.

adblock already integrated, works amazingly with a quick test on my end - it's an app in the Lemmy spirit

(it's got a paid model similar to winrar, you don't have to pay - but they do want you to - opensource and all)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's not enough to make work around for YouTube. We need a new YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

ReVanced taps into my history with microg. When I watch stuff on desktop with Firefox and uBlock Origin, I want those videos to show as watched on my phone when I open ReVanced so I don't get recommended the same stuff. That works.

GrayJay can't do this. It's not better. It's a good idea, but it's a side grade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Grayjay can do this - there is a toggle in the settings for the YouTube addin to sync watch data with your Google account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's a one-time sync though. If I want history from what I watched on my desktop today I have to resync.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the exact opposite of what most people want from an app like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's what I want from an app like this 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not open source. It's source available.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Its open source, not free software.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not open source.....but the source is open.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not the same

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Is there SponserBlock support?

If it supported both SponserBlock and DeArrow I'd switch in a heartbeat. Until then I'll stick to ReVanced.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

So, I really want to be optimistic about this project. I love that it integrates multiple sources, that it lets you use different identities that are not attached to any of these services. I installed it and already paid for it even, because I love initiatives like this.

I think it's unsustainable. In 5 years, everyone who'd use the app's already paid for it, which means the devs have no incentive to continue to work, and funding dries up. When that happens, they'll of course just let the app run until the plugins stop working. Nobody will be able to pick it up and continue development in an open forum because it's not FLOSS.

My hope is they re-license it under a copyleft license later, but I'm not optimistic about that happening. With how things are now, it does appear to be doomed to enshittification.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is an interesting project, not sure where it goes. The title is deeply misleading though. The features of ReVanced make YouTube so much better, whereas this project doesn't seem to be about making YouTube better so much as circumnavigating YouTube for the comment boxes and as your hub to creators. They seem to be doing different things.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

What do they do differently?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

basically Newpipe but only source available, not really free software or open source, so they are restricting your freedoms.

Just keep using Newpipe instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It is open source but you can't publish modified code (this is to ensure there will be no malicious forks like there was with newpipe)

plus you missed the entire point:

... app for watching online video content - not just youtube, but nebula, peertube, twitch and more.

It's an app that allows you to watch the same creators across many platforms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

FLOSS or die

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

The term "open source" generally refers to the definition by the Open Source Initiative.

https://opensource.org/osd/

Not allowing publishing of modified source code is in violation with the criteria of open source.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you used it? It's like NewPipe except that it's better in almost every way. The ONLY downside is that it's just old-fashioned open source instead of FOSS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's not open source

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sadly it's for the large part the recommendation algorithm that I'm on YouTube for. Most of the videos I watch are from people I'm not subscribed to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've always wondered if people like you existed! Fascinating.

Not criticizing you, just personally I don't want any recommendation algos in any of my media.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah people have mixed opinions about that, but atleast in my case YouTube's recommendations does a really good job at finding content I'm interested in. It just needs some training for it to do a good job. When there's something I'm not interested in, I just flag it as "not interested" and then that stuff dissapears and is replaced with something else.