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[–] [email protected] 159 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is is patriarchy in real time. He's attacking that guy's masculinity as a public reminder that real men enforce gender norms even in the most intimate relationships. It's preying on insecurity to control men to control women.

This kind of gender enforcement is pretty common for boys aged 4 until death. The trick of the true oppressor is to get you to surveil yourself.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Allow me to share a small personal story. An anecdote, as it is often called.

I was home for ten years with my children. I changed diapers, took care of meals and chores, and when it was time for it, I took my children to pre-school.

Being a stay at home father, being present for my children, was trampled on by teachers and the mothers of other children. It was disrespectful, demeaning. I was unwelcomed and unwanted. Some even tried to create a narrative that I was a danger to the children.

Women were more vitriolic and systematic in their gender affirmation than men.

That is extremely sad and telling.

The guy in the post is an idiot and being told to shut up and told off, followed by perhaps a couple of punches to the teeth would be enough to get him to stay quiet.

Women would not be so easy to handle.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

This. I'm trans and I've existed in public as both a man and a woman.

Nothing is more soul-crushing than being called The Devil simply for being of a sex that isn't even one you want to be!

One of the few Right Wing talking points that I sort of agree with is the idea that men are demonized just for existing, because they REALLY are. I'm not surprised men are responding with hostility to being told their very masculinity is toxic.

Don't get me wrong, Dudebros are still fucking awful, but... "I get it" if that makes sense.

Doesn't mean I recommend anyone takes Andrew Tate or Jordan Peterson's advice and no incels are not based, but... damn ya know.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is one of the primary things pushing young men toward the right. I always try to point that out and advocate against the relentless bashing, but that just gets me called misogynist or told that they just need to suck it up and deal with it. It sucks.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We need to tell men that it's okay for boys to cry, and that if someone hurts them we promise not to laugh at them, and we need to fucking mean it.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Because you're seen as pushing back on the feminist agenda. Funny thing, feminism is about equality, not reversing roles nor pushing down individuals.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Same type of people who think they're feminists but then openly laugh at the idea of the male loneliness epidemic

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why so many young men have moved to the right. When one side is telling you ur worth nothing you deserve this and the other is telling you your worth nothing this is how to fix it what do u expect people to choose.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why I believe the virtue we need more than any other is forgiveness.

To be honest, I'd be all for legislation that makes a criminal record less damning.

Think about it. If you tell someone "We're not going to hire you, we're not going to help you in anyway, and we're not even going to recognize your basic humanity you're a criminal and that's all you'll ever be!"

Will they aspire to better themselves, change how people see them, pick themselves up by their bootstraps, and try to find a foot in the door?

Or are they going to say "Well, if I'm a criminal, that's all I'll ever be and I have bills to pay, I guess I better rob a convenience store so I don't starve to death."

The former makes for a feel good story, but the latter's going to be more realistic.

If you tell someone they're worthless because of X, then they will live up to the label. You need to BELIEVE in someone and give them a real chance to change their ways, we cannot be defined solely by our mistakes or we will always be the worst versions of ourselves.

And in the case of what's happening with men, they're not even being judged by their mistakes. They're not even being allowed to make mistakes, for too many have already declared them guilty by association with the penis.

They say that men are afraid women will laugh at them, but the truth is, men are afraid that women will have them arrested for the crime of maleness.

This is why I will never call myself a Feminist, I prefer the term Egalitarian. For I will not stoop to misandry (As Modern Feminism has often been accused of, as boys are constantly left behind while their female peers are given a leg up), nor racism (Anyone else familiar with the term "White Feminism"?)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This right here is why I think trans rights hits so hard for so many people. Despite most not even knowing anyone trans.

That targeted harassment against men is for minor stuff like being a good father. Having never met a trans woman, people assume they are "really a man". It also doesn't help that the most visible trans people are early on in the process. So they see a man who has way overshot those gender norms and that harassment goes to extreme levels. Despite them being an actual woman and not playing that game.

This is just one example of how trans rights affect everyone. If someone can completely change genders without any harassment then people like stay at home dads can live in peace as well.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It takes strength and confidence to go against societal expectations. If anything I would say the man's living his best life and nobody is going to peer pressure him into being miserable.

The men pressuring others are miserable themselves and are only so uptight about it because someone forced that on them. It's like some weird chain of people not minding their own business because if they can't be free nobody can.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean he's married to an extremely successful woman who is worth, according to my searching, $1.4 billion.

I'd stay home with the kids too. Please be my sugar mommy, hot billionaire. I will live in your luxury mansion if all it takes is changing diapers and stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

THERES NOTHING MORE STRAIGHT THAN BEING THE ALPHA MALE IN A SEA OF OTHER MALES.

DOMINATE THE WEAKER MALES.

MAKE THEM KNOW THEIR PLACE.

DO NOT THINK ABOUT THEIR NON-ALPHA PENISES OR THEIR CUTE LITTLE BUTTS.

FOR YOU, YOU ARE THE MOST ALPHA OF ALPHAS.

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[–] [email protected] 121 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Fuck man. I'd love to be in his position lol.

Wife rich as fuck, hot as fuck, and all I gotta do is:

  1. support her and be taken around the world by her

  2. have sex with her

  3. stay at home and play with the kids and toys?

Have you seen the toys kids have now? That shit is fire and a thousand times better then the shit I had as a kid.

Homey is jealous that the grind he on didn't come with a heavy dose of luck, and all he's got is a Twitter Account run by a non-sleeping, ketamine dosing nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Boys, we've done it.

It is now gay to be straight.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

last week we were told on lemmy that all men we were legally women now and were ok to get cheap drinks at ladies night. Now we are also all gay. OK I guess. So straight guys are all lesbians now?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

So many people's porn fantasies just came true.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He loves his kids! What a fag!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So when he loves his kids he gets called a fag.

When I love his kids I get arrested.

The double standards are insane.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

After his wife died, Rick Moranis quit his successful Hollywood career to raise his kids.

What a total homo.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

Honey I Shrunk The Kids, So We Can All Fit In The Closet Together

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I love this. So gay

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

I heard a rumor a year or so ago, that he might come back to do some passion projects, now that the kids are grown.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I like how it calls out the bullshit that men can't care for their kids.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is more homosexual than being a loving, present father for the children you've created with a woman.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No cap that's actually so gay fr

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

"I love you, dad."

"Sorry, son. That's gay. I'm never speaking to you again."

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’d let Rihanna fuck me in the ass…just saying.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Nothing gay about being fucked by a woman.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Someone had't recieved enough love from his father and wants to be an asshole about it

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Guys: is it gay to have sex with a woman? This is urgent I have one in bed with me right now

ETA: Doesn’t matter had sex.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There is nothing manlier than gay sex.

So having sex with women is feminine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Yep, heterosexual sex between a man and a women is gay as fuck, she’s literally fucking a dude which is the gayest thing you can do.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never see anything useful from these alpha types - they don't post about what they've made, how they solved a problem, what new things they have learned, nothing. Just self-aggrandisement and shitting on people they deem lesser.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The men who claim to be "alphas" are some of the least alpha men in society I swear. Not that that's even a real thing

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives believe there are only 2 possible roles for a father, absent or abusive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

They don’t even consider the abuse abusive. Got in an argument with some conservative dumb fuck and that idiot had the gall to say,

“My parents beat the shit out of me for doing things like that”

Like cool, dude. That really explains way more than you think lol

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah i'd sub for Rihanna too

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No no don't give me incredible sex and a million dollars...nooooo

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't worried about whether or not I was gay before and I'm still not worried about it. People like this seem to be very worried about whether or not they're gay. It's weird because all I need to know is that I'm not sexually attracted to men.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Why is the comment about being gay, he's talking about "emasculation", so this is about masculinity, not about heteronormativity. Still, assigning your perceived masculine virtues to everyone is kinda cringe ngl, as is defining femininity as inferior.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I mean generally toxic masculinity comes with a healthy dose of homophobia on the side too

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That Shadaya dude is just African Andrew Tate. Bet many African nations are going to have to deal with maladjusted manboys in the near future, like what is currently happening in the West.

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