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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's list all items that do not look like a gun during a police encounter. I'll start:

Small puppy Couch Basketball Bucket full of fruit Ice

I can't think of anymore at the moment. There's bound to be one or two other items.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No one has claimed it looked like a gun. He was running towards the police with a gardening hoe with a clear intention to hit him. There's video of it in this thread. This is not an example of a police shooting an innocent person. They shot someone that was attacking them with a lethal weapon.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Billy club, taser, or just a good old Sparta kick to the chest. If lethal force is your first instinct when a child comes at you with a stick, you should in no way be allowed to carry a weapon.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now lets put you there under an attack and give you 4 seconds to decide what to do. I wanna see that Sparta kick.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

4 seconds to decide what to do.

Isn't that what training is for? To train the brain to react appropriately? Why do hair dressers require more training than cops?

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

The point is that it's quite easy here to observe the video comfortably from your couch at home and with the power of hindsight ponder what they should've done instead. The officer being attacked here had no such luxury. This is in no way me saying that there's zero issues on how policing is done in the US. There's nuance to these things.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You sure this was what set him off? You sure he didn't hear an acorn drop?

Either one can apparently trigger police officer Psycho Mode.

[–] Nonononoki@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Kid ran towards the officer with an axe, don't run towards someone with an axe if they have a gun.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

TLDR: What is the "5 foot garden tool"? That's all I want to know!

So many details and blame thrown about, but suddenly vague on "gardening tool?" It was 5 feet of something. A rake? A scythe? A stick?

It sort of matters what is in your hands when you approach police; not that that's ever a good idea. Even with a disability, he could be dangerous.

I'm astounded by The Guardian. How does an article explain is such detail the events of an altercation and aftermath yet space so terribly on such basic information?

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Too bad he wasn't a big white man with a knife! Then the cops would have tried to talk him down!

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense... Do you think the criminal justice system will hand-wave it away as easily as this?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense…

The thing is, liberals want to see this as some kind of exercise in fairness. "Oh if can shoot me then I can shoot them!"

No. This is a gang-violence thing. The MS-13 gang member can shoot you because he's got a gun and years of psychological scarring and a willingness to kill to survive. You can't shoot the gang member, because all his buddies will show up at your house, hold you down and skin your dog alive while you're forced to watch, then bust out all your teeth and hang you out to dry as an example.

Cops work the same way.