cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/8181688
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'Tankies' (for the lack of a better word) have been against communism throughout history. It's disingenuous to assume they could be capable of unity
this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
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Just call em authoritarians. That's what they are
Hexbear comes here to be the debate bros they try so hard to dunk on. They are dying looking for just one little morsel of dunk. Not a good showing, not a leftist unity moment lmao
What an impressive turn out. Looks like they're all using the exact same "arguments" (a combination of manipulation techniques and logical fallicies) that they use every single time.
It's worrying how much of a presence these people create in online discourse because they come out in full force, dominating and suppressing anyone or thing that challenges them. There is no healthy debate.
But i suppose it all makes perfect sense; these people glorify the state, single party rule and dictatorship. Their behavior is a logical result of these beliefs
Meme has been ammended to not be racist. Sorry about not paying close enough attention to it. I've been having issues with my object storage and I've been trying to fix it. In the end I decided to rehost on imgur.
Just a hint: if you find yourself accidentally doing racism, maybe stop and consider if you're doing the right thing.
Liberals would sooner censor out the surface level racism than consider if maybe the underlying message is racist.
Just wanted to come in and say good job op, you managed to make a very entertaining thread. Big ups
This will stand as a great monument to Hexbear
What exactly is a tankie?
an idiot.
Thanks for nothing, seeing as that comment fits you into your own definition.
TIL.
So we dont trust authoritarian communists/socialists. How does this influence our praxis?
It doesn't really. Just keep doing anarchist things and don't allow ML entry-ism and agitate for direct action moves instead of top down decision making.
What's a Tankie?
EDIT: The range of definitions below is interesting
A white kid from North America who simps for Russia and China despite never having set foot in either
Tankies are not at all a uniquely US phenomenon
When it describes 95% of the ones I've come into contact with, that's what I'll describe them as
A liberal who waves a red flag and pretends they aren't liberal. Often they call everyone else (including us) liberal. 😂 😉
Just going to say what I say every time this shit shows its ugly head: Anticommunism is always profascism. You are siding with nazis.
EDIT: when the place starts getting infested with nazis you have nobody to blame but yourself for effectively inviting them over.
Just because you seem to say it often doesn't make it less stupid
I'm not anticommunism ya dolt.
You are when you do that.
Anarchists have criticized Marxists from the left since the time of Bakunin.
Cool, continue to do so in ways that don't align with nazis.
Anarchists saying we don't trust tankies because they have a history of killing us when they're in power is aligning with Nazis now?
Just a thought, maybe it's because you all start acting like nazis the instant the government turns socialist? Maybe consider not doing that??
Ye, that totally fills me with confidence about MLs now...
I don't give a shit about MLs just exhausted at how anarchists will go DEFCON 2 at socialists but are totally OK working with actual fascists, and anyone pointing out this contradiction is immediately branded thought-terminating cliche number 46.
List one time in human history where anarchists didn't just turn around and play nice with nazis to push back against whatever socialist was in power. I can use an example that will help you see what i'm getting at: Social Democrats. They turn on the left so fucking fast.
I don't know what you're talking about but even if true (like, massively big if here), we're not a monolith
I can tell, actual anarchists are joining unions, salting workplaces, spreading agitprop and changing minds. Not siding with nazis on the internet by spreading anticommunism. You know, actual anarchists such as myself and most of the people calling you out on here??
I said it before and i'll say it again: If MLs are giving you problems it's because to them you look like a nazi because you're acting like one.
You know, actual anarchists such as myself and most of the people calling you out on here??
Right, everyone here is an anarchist. Sure. Mate, go over to Greece and talk that shit in an anarchist space. See where it takes you.
I'm just going to assume you're one of those "libertarian socialist" cryptofash pedophiles since I've burnt out every good faith interpretation.
What the fuck is you major malfunction mate? How the fuck do you go around telling that shit to people?
I think they used to comment normal, but I swear it's all this wild accusation stuff recently.
They're unhinged, and this whole thread is bonkers.
Ahaa!! I fucking called it!!