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Speaking to reporters less than two weeks before he takes office on Jan. 20 and as a delegation of aides and advisers that includes his son Donald Trump Jr. is in Greenland, Trump left open the use of the American military to secure both territories.

"I'm not going to commit to that," he said, when asked if he would rule out the use of the military. "It might be that you'll have to do something. The Panama Canal is vital to our country." He added, "We need Greenland for national security purposes." Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark, a longtime U.S. ally and a founding member of NATO.

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[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is a distraction. What else happened today that they don't want the news focusing on??

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's all distraction. He just wants his name in the news. Le Pen dying is hogging headlines, President Musk is making waves in Europe, you've got Trudeau's resignation, a Ukranian ace shooting down cruise missiles, and none of it has Trump's name on it.

Edit: Oh, the one Trump story is that Jack Smith may release his findings. So maybe that's it.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn. Had me going for a second. I forgot that Le Pen is a family of French nazis. Not an individual

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I should be more specific. Jean-Marie Le Pen died.

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

It's probably easier if we start by listing all the things that aren't happening today.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah 100%

This gets trump assassinated by a three letter organisation

What's not making it past the editor's desk today?

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

This gets trump assassinated by a three letter organisation

Merely the act of reading this gave me a freedom boner

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

That brought back bad memories. I remember in his first term everything he said or did was a "distraction" according to reddit.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The appointment of fascists to the FBI and conspiracy theorists to government health jobs.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

America's idea of national security is the same thing as American Hegemony.

Under these rules, No one is allowed to pose a threat. even their own allies. that's why the Fascist factions of America are currentley focused on taking Europe and Canada apart, they want subservient puppet states, not Powerful partners and allies. The EU needs to prepare for a future where it is no longer allied to America, this is the multipolar world that Putin talked about ,(although in Putin's plan, Russia is in control of most of Eurasia, Nuking China too if need be, according to lunatics like Dugin/Ilyn)

So that being said, Europe basically has two futures, Federalize and Militarize, preparing to treat both America and Russia as Advesaries if need be, or do nothing, and get picked apart by the Fascists, Mafia goons, and megalomaniac tech bros who are trying to infiltrate every level of government by poisoning the elections with filth. Russia is still the enemy of the free world, But part of America is rearing to join them.

Canada on the other hand, Is looking more and more every day like a future of conflict with an Imperialist America is going to be a reality. Its not a fight we can win, but we will fight regardless. Everybody dies eventually. I'd rather die fighting american fascists and traitor "canadians" than live on my knees. If was was going to die in a conflict, I would have preferred it be against russian fascists rather than my own friends and neighbors of both my own country and the americans. but its all the same. you fight fascists because you must. If they are truly stupid enough to keep pushing this to the end result, they'll live to severely regret it.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 year ago

None of this nonsense is really American foreign policy though. It's insane rants of our leader.

I refuse to believe that invading Greenland, Panama, or any of our current allies would be at all acceptable to the rest of the nation. Things can change maybe, but I don't really see how that would happen right now.

Except maybe Mexico. I could honestly see a path forward for that one. Which would no doubt be dumb as fuck.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I told my landlord today that even tho I've never held a PAL (possession and acquisition licence), I'm getting one as soon as I have some money.

I'll stand on the border somewhere, whether aiming south or north is no matter.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get the restricted, it's usually just an extra couple hours after the regular PAL training class if you talk to your instructor and pay an extra $50. And go with friends, it's actually kind of a fun course. I went with my wife and friend just to sit in as I was grandfathered in for the PAL and FAC before that.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I refuse to rule out saying MAGA is a terrorist organization.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I still can't believe they thought that was a good idea haha

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Now when they’re credibly accused of it, the base is conditioned to think it’s ridiculous librul exaggeration.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I thought we were mostly in agreement on this, tbh

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The orange asshole is willing to start WW3 over Greenland and the Panama Canal.

Awesome. :/

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ww3 already started 3 years ago when russia started shooting at Ukraine.

People just don't believe ww3 is anything other than nukes falling. So global conflict with clear lines drawn * withoutb atomic booms . Many people thibk is just bauiness as usual

*(until America decides to switch sides that is).

[–] hobovision@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's just the second cold war. You'll know WW3 started when NATO invokes Article 5. Until then, it's all just proxies.

In the first cold war there were proxy wars in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. Now it's Ukraine and Israel/Syria/Lebanon.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then according to that logic all of the Cold War was WW3 because at this point it's still just a couple of proxy wars going on. No great/super powers are in direct conflict with each other.

Call me when China and Russia decide to team up and attack Boston.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

New us territory - Greenland

51st state - Canada

52nd state - Mexico

53rd state - Panama

54th state - UK

55th state - ???

Put it in your bets folks.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Lol at the prospect of Trump giving Canada and Mexico full statehood with voting rights. He can't even handle letting existing states have voting rights.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Canada, Mexico, Panama

Haiti, Jamaica, Peru! Republic Dominican, Cuba, Caribbean, Greenland, El Salvador too!

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No way, all of Canada is just added to Michigan.

All hail Omega Michigan.

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[–] makyo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren’t we all used to this by now? Ask him stupid questions and you’re going to get stupid answers.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

He never rules out anything. It's how he stays in the headlines and looks "thoughtful". It masks the fact that he has no fucking clue what he will do.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago

I see Trump feels like he needs to take over Elon's headlines.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I understand this is just a distraction ….

I am somewhat curious how it would play out. As the upcoming Commander-in-Chief, Trump will be in command of all military. He can say “go”. However any officer with any ethical backbone should reply “no”. So, will he get enough sycophants in enough places instead of competent leaders, that he could actually pull shenanigans like this?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Legally, only Congress has the right to make war.

Not that the law has really stopped him so far.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you call it something else you can do whatever you want. It's an old Bush trick.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago

It’s an old Nixon trick. Actually an old Truman trick, using the US military in un-declared wars started with the Korean conflict, but Nixon and Kissinger really amped things up with their secret war in Cambodia.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Special Operation Green Initiative

Edit: I really fucking hope I’m wrong or the military tells him to go fuck himself if he orders that.

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[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great way to dismantle NATO, I guess.

Also, this has nothing to do with security like was the message some days ago. The US has almost free access to Greenland as it is. This if a mineral grab.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. The warming arctic means that countries bordering that part of the world are becoming much more available and much more valuable. So... Russia, Canada, Norway, Denmark (via Greenland), and the US (via Alaska) now have lands that need to be exploited or defended. Apparently the US has decided that Alaska isn't enough.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

This shit is so stupid. Please don't feed the trolls.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Fucking Putin jr over here

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how fast will they stop with their bullshit if the whole world starts considering them a threat to their security and give them the North Korea treatment

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

China is a threat to almost every other country's security and that has not earned them the North Korea treatment. Wealthy, powerful countries get away with it.

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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are gonna use military force for anything, invade all the small tax haven countries.

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[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Didn't some European country about 80 years ago decide to use their military to secure sovereign territories that they thought vital to their country?

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The Panamanians are investigating the Orange Shit Stain for tax evasion. WTF, I would welcome the Danes and Greenlanders to take over the Blue States.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Won’t happen. This is to distract you from his appointments aimed at revenge and grifting.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has he even run these ideas past Elon yet?

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