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[+] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] zorro@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same

[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Same here.

I used to get super excited for Steam summer sales because I played all the games in my library.

But now my library is full of games that I haven't played, and I keep telling myself that I don't want to buy new games since they'll end up sitting there like the ones already in my library

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 9 points 1 year ago

Been a little rough lately. I ended up playing about 6 games in the previous steam sale only to play each game max 5 hours, find it boring and buy something else with the hopes to find something that pumps out some dopamine. But it never does.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like depression.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 10 points 1 year ago

Yep, that's how I know by now a depressive episode is coming on.

Recognizing them earlier helps me to give myself a mixture of slack and forced "that's good for you so do it fucker" that usually gets me through them quicker and with less collateral damage than just waiting them out.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno what you play or how, but try playing blind (no looking up solutions), and not try to not min/max the game. Both of those take the fun out of the game really fast.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For me it was the opposite. Whenever I tried some game and I didn't have luck it got boring. But passing it with god-power cheats was fun. Hell, I had most fun with GTA-SA after going through the game with cheats and then blowing up everything and everyone and spawning random vehicles to either use or blow up as well.

I probably spent the most time with train and planes. Also I think car mods, I don't remember it that well anymore. Yeah, I think there was that mod garage near train station, definitely. That was a lof of fun too.

For me, cheats made 95% of the fun.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I used to that pretty much exclusively, but it got boring eventually.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But isn't playing "blind" the standard way to beat a game?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My definition is "knowing literally nothing", with an exception for watching a video that gives a review or first-look. Thus, I can play blind exactly once, per game. I will only seek help if I get stuck for a while (hour+).

Often friends look to me for opinions of games, and assuming it's a game I'm interested in, I'll either stream or record my own blind 'review'. Everything from the second I hit launch, gets included. I have turned away groups of people because of my criticisms, as if a game is shit I'll explain in excruciating detail how, and bitch about it every time it fucks with the experience. Kinda similar to AVGN's style. It can be therapitic for me, and save a bunch of friends a bunch of money.

The whole 'min/max' bullshit isn't gaming, it's a glorified spreadsheet exercise. Yawn. Going in and just doing stuff is what games are all about, for me. I recently started playing gran turismo 4 and I chose a daihatsu k-car minivan with like 53hp and fwd, as my starter car. Makes no sense, makes winning really hard or literally impossible. But I liked the car and fuck it, everyone would go with a miata or something similar, but that's boring, let's see how this does. It actually can win (some) races, if you disregard racing rules, plow straight as you can through chicanes, around barriers and through the environment. The game isn't penalizing me so it's a 'legit strat'...

Playing 'blind' is the only way, imo. And worry more about fun than competitiveness. If you're a skilled player you can beat others with better items/gear/cars regardless. And if you aren't skilled yet, you'll try harder to get there learning more than others.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not for everyone, and not for every game.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yea, but many people play while alt-tabbing to a guide or wiki.

[–] hihi24522@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Executive dystfunction is a symptom of ADHD and one that I have a hard time explaining to others. Most people I know don’t understand that even if I actually want to do something, sometimes I literally just can’t start doing it or I have to do weird shit like this to like talk myself into it.

Getting medicated helps a lot if you find the right meds. Honestly the current meds I’m on don’t help as much with focus, but they do help with just being able to fucking do shit and that’s the greater benefit in my opinion. The fact I can just think “oh I should do the dishes” and then start doing the dishes without having to think about doing it for half an hour before starting is still mind blowing to me sometimes.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty severe ADHD and my wife has it too. Honestly unless someone either has ADHD or has had someone important in their life with it I'm not sure they truly understand executive disfunction.

[+] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the source is to be trusted:

Evidence indicates both disorders co-occur with a high frequency, in 20-50% of children with ADHD meeting criteria for ASD and in 30-80% of ASD children meeting criteria for ADHD.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20148275/

Also in the past, at least in US with DSM-4 it was thought that ASD and ADHD are mutually exclusive, so there's probably a lot of people incorrectly missing that diagnosis.

DSM-5 superseded that in May 2013.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yea i would definitely use that power sparingly lol. My dad was undiagnosed with ADHD till his 40s and he used rage/anger to get things done all throughout his younger years and he has a lot of stomach problems due to a number of factors such as severe reflux and other similar things. Not saying they were all directly caused by the anger, but it's pretty accepted with my family and others that the anger probably exacerbated things.

Also, i feel like in some, not all, regards ADHD and Autism can be two sides of the same coin. I've definitely wondered before whether I might be at least a little bit on the spectrum.

[–] rbits@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah this is the biggest thing that drove me to get diagnosed. I just wasn't doing anything I enjoyed because I couldn't get myself to do it. I would just watch YouTube instead. Now when I'm medicated I actually do the stuff that I'm interested in.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck I might have to get myself checked then.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's weird explaining to people that every fiber of my being is screaming "DO THE THING" but something just gets...stuck along the way and I spend like 30-60 minutes hyping myself up to complete a 5 minute task.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just to add for anyone reading, and I'm not diagnosing anyone, ADHD shares a ton of symptoms with anxiety, depression, autism, and C/PTSD. It's also common to have multiple of those at once with a compounding effect.

I've always had a mild level of executive function difficulty(presumed ADHD, undiagnosed) but then i had acute anxiety+depression and saw how bad it can get. The comic is a story of the one good day you might get in a week.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

“What’s the point” aka living while depressed

[–] kubica@fedia.io 21 points 1 year ago

I wish it worked for me as easy as that.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As if I need to shower to play video games

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Not me!

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you stare blankly at your steam library unable to pick a game as you know you the dopamine farms dried up.

[–] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I just go through running a game I think is interesting so it's at the top of my recently played and just go back to playing Ark.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If my brain could talk.

Oh wait...

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Yo, your brain is talking wtf

[–] Juice260@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I feel seen

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My partner is gonna be thrilled when she gets home and smells that I showered today even though I have the day off and it’s raining outside. Breaking a three day streak. If I didn’t feel kinda sick (caught from her being much worse), I might not have bothered, but I wanted the steam to help with sinuses.

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Username checks out ;-)

[–] hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago

This is how adulting works.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't relate

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Agreed. My brain is me. There is no me at my side. I am one. I also don't play much videogames. But I do tend to procrastinate on showers, so there's that.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I shower when my hair gets itchy

[+] HawlSera@lemm.ee -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact shit like this is possible is why I believe we are more than just the brain.

If we were only the brain, we couldn't argue with it. If we were just the body, we couldn't be at odds with it. We would merely be slaves to our impulses, the fact that we aren't is all the proof I need.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

There's nothing dictating that your brain needs to have one decisive opinion. It's just a bunch of nerve cells firing due to stimuli. Some of those nerve cells can be firing one thing and others can be firing another thing. To my knowledge, they actually do that quite regularly, and then if there's a particularly strong firing, it'll serve as a stimulus for more firings, which typically leads to some sort of 'consensus' in our head, e.g. most of the parts of a memory that got encoded into the nerve cells being fired off.

At this point, I am just spitballing, but I imagine, if you've got very many external stimuli or also barely any like in the comic, then the brain isn't pushed towards such a consensus-firing, so then the internal stimuli from one thought stimulating a different thought may just kind of ping-pong in your head.

[–] ZeroPoke@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apparently we are actually two brains. And one half can't talk. But does make choices on its own that can disagree with the other half.

Something they used to do is cut the connecting tissue between the two brain half's. People who have had that happen have explain how the difference sides of their bodies will sometimes disagree with the other. And when that happens the talking half might come up a really non sensical reasoning to why it did what it did.

CGP Grey did a video on it. And if you search split brains you can probably find more. There an interview with someone on YouTube I watched a long time ago.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

True, but I'm still not convinced that there isn't a brain mind separation.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I've taken a few classes that touched on this concept. Most interesting to me is the concept of the two halves seemingly being secular vs deist, essentially. Now I'm wondering if the deist half is the "nonsensical" side, as you described.